Phoenix v5 temporary fix, well sort of

[Surinder Singh]

I've been tuning some of the models in v5.0c to see if I could get them to behave a little better.

What I was finding that most of the models would when on the inverted part of a piro flip fly off at a weird vector as if I was adding too much negative at the wrong time.
I'm still working on piroflips so I'm by no means an expert.

What is working for me on the larger models at least is adding more mass. Adding approx 1kg to the default value while increasing the overall agility using the simple percentage setup to something between intermediate and advanced. about 65 to 70% seems to be working. Have to be a bit more careful on collective management as the models bog a little easier with the mass increase. But thats not too bad for sim practice.

It feels a little better but still far from perfect. The smaller models e.g. trex450 size are impossible to fly even after fiddling.

I'd like to here from you guys what you've tried to fix the broken or different physics.

Oh and finally would any of you Gentlemen like to take part in a heli sliding phoenix session tomorrow afternoon, skids or head button?
I'll let you guys choose. Longest skids on grass wins

Surinder.

[waveydavey]

I have to be fair and I'm not finding too much difference between V4 and V5. They both appear to be similar, agree though the head button slide the length of the runway is a tad odd

[Sean]

I cant seem to do banked circuits any more without crashing to the ground.

[waveydavey]

Actually I take that back the Trex450 3G is ridiculous, I can't even get it to to inverted in a piro flip and the goblin is similar. The Trex 700 FB will go over you just need a lot of height, how odd

[jimmyhorns]

Its proper mental.

WTF are they doing.... have RF paid them off?....

[Surinder Singh]

I cant seem to do banked circuits any more without crashing to the ground.

Yep even doing banked turns you can feel that something is wrong.

[Surinder Singh]

Actually I take that back the Trex450 3G is ridiculous, I can't even get it to to inverted in a piro flip and the goblin is similar. The Trex 700 FB will go over you just need a lot of height, how odd

The problems are more apparent on the small models.

The smaller models are totally unflyable. Tried tweeking but just can't get them to work.
The only work aroung is to add 1kg of mass to the larger models and up the agility.
But the the model do bog quite a bit more but that's not necessarily a bad thing as it helps management of collective.

I also re calibrated my tx just to make sure that was not causing a problem.

If we could get some pro flyers to comment on how v5 feels it would be great.

[Surinder Singh]

Haha I even experienced a tail blow out on a hurricane earlier today first time ever on the sim.

[Nick B]

What made mine better was to start from scratch on tx,reset the model memory and recalibrate.

Still not as good as RF but the auto's are better on phoenix.

[Surinder Singh]

What made mine better was to start from scratch on tx,reset the model memory acontrolling te.

Still not as good as RF but the auto's are better on phoenix.

When I did a tx recal the heli was just jumping up and down like crazy. Like as if someone else was controlling the heli doing pitch pumps constantly. I had to revert to an old tx config file to get it to work again.

[Dan22]

I'm not going back on Phoenix until they get their act together and address the basic issues.
Been on neXt sim all evening, its way better IMO.

Dan.

[Surinder Singh]

Dan which usb interface are you using with NeXt.

I'm seriously considering jumping ship.

Just need to know more about what hardware I can use with NeXt.

My current Phoenix setup is via simstck and an orange tx.

Any way to use it with simstck?

I'm really pulling my hair out with v5 of phoenix.

[Dan22]

Phoenix v5 temporary fix, well sort of

I'm using a cheap USB to jack pin lead off eBay.
I think Fastlads may sell one similar.
When I first got next I wasn't that impressed but since then it has been updated and the physics are even better. It has a good selection if helis too.
Like any sim though, you will have to tweak the settings to suit your style.
Not sure about sim stick, I would also like to know if anyone is using one with this sim.
Dan.

[Surinder Singh]

I'm using a cheap USB to jack pin lead off eBay.
I think Fastlads may sell one similar.
When I first got next I wasn't that impressed but since then it has been updated and the physics are even better. It has a good selection if helis too.
Like any sim though, you will have to tweak the settings to suit your style.
Not sure about sim stick, I would also like to know if anyone is using one with this sim.
Dan.

I don't mind having a limited model selection. As long as the physics are good and I can translate my sim practice to my real helis.
I just want to have a sim that translates and is somewhat similar to my vbar or hc3sx setups.

I felt v4 felt very much like a well setup vbar. Now its just totally weird in v5.

[Surinder Singh]

Any links to the usb cable for Next would be appreciated.