Phoenix must be setup wrong help needed pls

[Texxaco]

Can anyone tell my when I fly my mcpx for real I can hover it without any problems yet when I try to hover a larger heli on Phoenix it drifts left and pitches forwards alarmingly and I have major trouble bringing it back to hover. In fact to be honest I never succeed in bring it back to hover.

I have copied the settings for my mcpx to model on my tx which is a spektrum dx6i that I use for Phoenix.

Pulling my hair out yet have not been able to resolve the problem.

thanks for any advice on settings for phoenix

cheers

Pete

[tonystevens]

Hi Pete, silly question and your bound to have checked but are your trims centred on your TX? Also I have noticed that phoenix tends to have a slight drift in the hover anyway

[waveydavey]

Got to be trims, mine doesn't do it at all.

[tonystevens]

Maybe go through the stick calibration process again, maybe you could have got it slightly wrong first time?

[David Drew]

I think. At least I think i think!

As above. Recalibrate Tx. Leave all trims and settings at zero and go from there.

[Texxaco]

Thanks for the replies guys.

i have looked at the trims on my dx6i and they are centred. That was the first thing I checked tbh. I asked a German guy online lol and he told me to re calibrate which I did, I think and still no change.

i am at a loss. Desperate to learn but it's impossible at the moment as no matter what model I pick it runs away from the minute I lift off.

sorry to be a pain

pete

[David Drew]

Thanks for the replies guys.

i have looked at the trims on my dx6i and they are centred. That was the first thing I checked tbh. I asked a German guy online lol and he told me to re calibrate which I did, I think and still no change.

i am at a loss. Desperate to learn but it's impossible at the moment as no matter what model I pick it runs away from the minute I lift off.

sorry to be a pain

pete

Not a pain mate. We all go through this at various stages

Carry on. Maybe get a local bloke to take a look. He/she will dial in all the required settings and you will fly like a bird.

Lee Mister has been doing this with me with my Goblin 500 and it's well set up now. (Thanks Lee)

[Texxaco]

The weird thing is I move to the mcpx on Phoenix and I can control it yet when I try the bigger heli as they are easier to see I get the problem.

not sure if lessons on the Sim will help as it's easier as it's online. Any thoughts.

[r4nd0m]

have a look at this HOW-TO Configure Phoenix Flight Simulator - by Marius S

[tomatwalden]

Phoenix and RealFlight correctly drift the heli left on hover. Your real heli does it, so why should the sim not?

I think many people don't notice translating tendency in real life as our helis take off from a rough/grippy surface in general, and we automatically correct the left drift in the hover without thinking about it.

The sims however, being more "digital" correctly drift the heli left, but I think some mistakenly believe the heli should hover level - ironically UNLIKE real life ...

[tomatwalden]

Texxaco - didn't realise you were a beginner! The drift left is 100% normal - your mcpx does it (although you don't notice), and the sim correctly simulates it. It's called "Translating Tendency", and it's caused by the tail rotor, which as well as stopping the heli from spinning, also has the side effect of pushing the heli left (since it's a free-floating body).

We all (subconsciously mostly) apply right lean via the cyclic to compensate. The physics (which apply to all helis - not just RC ones) are shown in this video ...

[waveydavey]

It shouldn't pitch forward violently Tom as in the first post. Agree the drift is something we get used to and ignore but not pitching forward, my setup certainly doesn't do it, so there is defo something not right with it.

[BavarianRob]

You say you have copied your settings for your mcpx, are you using these settings in Phoenix? This could be your problem. If so try a complete new setup with a new model set on your DX6i and re calibrate etc. do a google or YouTube search for DX6i settings in Phoenix and you should be up and running in no time.

[Texxaco]

Thanks for the info Tom and Dave, will have a look at both links you have oats and take it from there. Very much appreciate that you have take. Time to help me out.

Thanks from a newbie who only wants to get better

[tomatwalden]

It shouldn't pitch forward violently Tom as in the first post. Agree the drift is something we get used to and ignore but not pitching forward, my setup certainly doesn't do it, so there is defo something not right with it.

Agreed, pitch forward isn't right.

OP. Are you using a different model memory in your dx6i for the sim versus your mcpx?


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