Phonix/TREX600n/DX7

[mark lane]

Hi,

does anyone know the best set up for the above match. I have just got the sim and not sure what tweaking i can do. The DX7 is new to me also as i am still in the build process.

any advice much appreciated!

[barney]

Hi Mark. For the DX7 use the Phoenix template..go to Phoenix/your controls/select the DX7option.

In the radio itself select a blank heli memory. Go to Idle 1 screen, set Expo to ON then set a 5 point curve as follows100%. Inh. 50%. Inh 100%. Next activate throttle Hold..thats about it for the radio itself although you can fine tune it later with it.

Other settings I prefer in Phoenix myself in general. Autozoom OFF/Camera delay to O and then zoom in on the model using the keyboard or Mouse roller in my case (note:- its not the Autozoom setting)

Next you need to calibrate the controller in Phoenix . just follow the prompts and thats it.

The 600N flies pretty damn good overall. The 3D IMHO is for a fairly soft setup though.

My own 3D setup for a 600N is as follows. Its sort of a lively carbon paddled version, except I delibrately set the Expo to that setting so I have to work a little harder to keep it smooth.

Under Fine tuning lift tuning 116 Cyclic tuning 130 tail Power 125 Knife edge Tuning 100 Elev expo -30% Ail Expo -30% Rudder Expo +10%

Main rotor Gov speed 2000. Pitch +13 -13.

The main thing I find is make conscious effort to keep the model quite close in as it seems closer to reality. IMHO as long as the model is fairly close to yours on the Sim dont worry about it..the time is better spent actually learning than farting around too much.

Let me know how you get on..

cheers Brian

[jboweruk]

Do you know if the DX6i has a Phoenix template as well?

[barney]

jb...It has a speccie DX6 template so cant see it being a prob. + you can make a custom template easily. I assume the Dx6/6i will both use a JR DSC connections as per the DX7. (small phono socket) I would guess even the channels are in the same sequence.

[jboweruk]

Cheers Barney, I wish they'd hurry up and get them back in and dispatch mine....

[mark lane]

Hi Mark. For the DX7 use the Phoenix template..go to Phoenix/your controls/select the DX7option.

In the radio itself select a blank heli memory. Go to Idle 1 screen, set Expo to ON then set a 5 point curve as follows100%. Inh. 50%. Inh 100%. Next activate throttle Hold..thats about it for the radio itself although you can fine tune it later with it.

Other settings I prefer in Phoenix myself in general. Autozoom OFF/Camera delay to O and then zoom in on the model using the keyboard or Mouse roller in my case (note:- its not the Autozoom setting)

Next you need to calibrate the controller in Phoenix . just follow the prompts and thats it.

The 600N flies pretty damn good overall. The 3D IMHO is for a fairly soft setup though.

My own 3D setup for a 600N is as follows. Its sort of a lively carbon paddled version, except I delibrately set the Expo to that setting so I have to work a little harder to keep it smooth.

Under Fine tuning lift tuning 116 Cyclic tuning 130 tail Power 125 Knife edge Tuning 100 Elev expo -30% Ail Expo -30% Rudder Expo +10%

Main rotor Gov speed 2000. Pitch +13 -13.

The main thing I find is make conscious effort to keep the model quite close in as it seems closer to reality. IMHO as long as the model is fairly close to yours on the Sim dont worry about it..the time is better spent actually learning than farting around too much.

Let me know how you get on..

cheers Brian

Thanks Brian... more homework than i have had since college!! drafted in a mate who has a DX7 and he will follow your detailed guide. I have had my phoenix and DX7 for 72 hours and my rex 600 is about 1/5 built! but this is why i:

a) sold all but my left nut to buy the above! and..
b) joined this sight to learn about something from scratch, without any pressure from work/wife/mates!

I'm not even in the air yet but helis are taking over all my spare time!!

I am making sound progress on phoenix though.... flying neat circuits and staying disciplined, not pratting about. this has to be the key. i wan't to learn how to fly smoothly, fast. 3D can wait, i like fast smooth flight.

Thanks again, will let you know how i get on!!

Mark

[barney]

If you stay focused you will no doubt progress quickly.. just try not to make yourself stale by overdoing the Sim etc..Its all supposed to be fun. Phoenix will take you a long way..

cheers Brian

[mark lane]

If you stay focused you will no doubt progress quickly.. just try not to make yourself stale by overdoing the Sim etc..Its all supposed to be fun. Phoenix will take you a long way..

cheers Brian

More wise words.. many thanks

[Tim Procter]

If you stay focused you will no doubt progress quickly.. just try not to make yourself stale by overdoing the Sim etc..Its all supposed to be fun. Phoenix will take you a long way..

cheers Brian

Excellent quotation Brian, Over do things and you soon get bored.

I find joining a session makes you try that little harder, as you know others will be watching you and you don't want to make yourself look a fool in front of them..

Makes me wonder how did people learn to fly helis before simulators were about.

Must have been very expensive.

[jboweruk]

No matter how disciplined you may want to be, flying them right on the sim can still get frustrating, so when it does, turn up the wind, and just have some fun. After all, it's all about fun, and the laughs you'll get will relieve the stress.

I remember in one of my first online sessions it was planks only, when I got in there the b***er had upped the wind to almost maximum, and we were all trying to land and getting blown everywhere. It was fun though.