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    I'm spending most of my time flying my Aurora at the moment and, thanks to Trevor at Midland Helicopters, I've been playing with some new blades.

    I've noticed fairly recently that a lot of new design blades are appearing and they are all really pretty good - or put another way, it's getting hard to pick major faults and differences between 3D rotor blades these days

    One of the sets of blades I've flown are the new 703mm Maniac 2 blades - these blades have a massive chord, very very wide indeed (anyone for cricket?). Good finish with the same visual design as the normal Maniac blades, but with an additional 2 on the end (superscript, like a 'squared' maths symbol). Aside from the slight visual change, they are also stiffer and lighter than their predecessors.

    They come with hard foam blade grip spacers. The spacers have three little nipples which sit into recessed mouldings on the blade roots top and bottom. After one flight, the nipples were compressed a little - I'm not sure how they will fare long term or if a set of metal spacers would be a better long term idea - but they worked fine nonetheless. I fitted them to my heli and popped it up into a hover to see that they tracked perfectly.

    They are a nice punchy blade with tons of lift from the oversized chord. They have fast and accurate cyclics and I didn't really get any excessive motor bogging in heavier pitch manoeuvres, which I was expecting to be honest. They don't feel too pitchy in forwards or backwards flight and generally felt pretty good.

    Moron over here (yes, me!) forgot to try some autos on these blades, but will do so in the near future... I have a feeling they will hang forever

    I flew this set after having had a flight with my 690mm V blades and in comparison to those, they are slightly less poppy on the pitch (there is a little flex to them that V Blades don't have), but have faster cyclics. The rest of the flight characteristic is in the same ballpark and they work well.

    Next up was a set of 710mm Torsion blades. Holy crap. Awesome!!
    At the moment, in my opinion, absolutely nothing touches the Torsion 710mm blades. They are astonishingly good. Very fast and accurate cyclics, incredible pitch power giving awesome punchy pitch stops - better than my current V Blades. They auto well too, in fact they have the whole thing sorted and I can't really describe how great I think these blades are without gushing like a girl - so I'll stop.
    Damn... too late

    Finally, the 693mm Insane blades from BBT (in the Maniac stable).
    Visually the same as Maniac blades, except they say Insane instead of Maniac. They are a narrower chord blade than the Maniacs and definitely narrower than Maniac 2s. They actually have what you would consider a normal blade chord width, like Torsion or V blades.
    The blade shape is slightly different at both root and tip too.
    I only managed a single flight on these blades today, but woah, my heli had a shift on! These things are apparently designed for speed, and from my single flight today, I'd say they got that part nailed.
    No blade grip spacers needed for these, which is a bit odd (although nice as I hate messing with blade grip spacers!!) but I would like some continuity - make them all the same root size

    I popped them onto the heli and then got it up into a hover and the blade tracking was perfect once again. I think you're unlucky if that doesn't happen these days on a well setup heli with decent blades.

    They felt nice and responsive and not very power hungry maintaing good headspeed throughout the flight. Better than their fatter brother (Maniac 2), but not by a massive amount. They auto'ed pretty well too - I certainly didn't feel troubled at the bottom of the auto, where there was enough headspeed to hover, piro and land comfortably. Again, more time on them needed for a fuller assessment, but for now, I think these are pretty good!

    Did I mention Torsion 710mm blades were awesome?
    LOL
    Cheers,
    Rob
    Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

    | 3D Championship

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    Thanks for the report Rob. Just out of interest, have you flown the Align 690D blades? Just wondered how you would rate these against the Torsions.

    Cheers
    Pete



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    • #3
      Hi Pete,
      No. I've not flown those blades yet.

      If their 90 size blades are anything like their 50 size "D" blades, then I guess they will be pretty decent.

      Cheers,
      Rob
      Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

      | 3D Championship

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      • #4
        Thanks Rob.

        Based on your review I think I'll try some Torsions next time. They seem pretty good!
        Pete



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        • #5
          In my honest opinion, the Torsion 710mm blades are the 90 size blade to beat currently.
          Treat yourself to a set, you won't be disappointed

          Cheers,
          Rob
          Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

          | 3D Championship

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          • #6
            Yeh i fly the 690 d's and i am impressed with them, i expect from your description of the tortion they will be similarto the d's.
            James

            Sponsored by
            Align-Trex.co.uk
            Optifuel/optipower
            MKS servotech


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            • #7
              I've been flying the original Maniac 703 blades on my 700 for quite a few months now. These also have the hard foam spacers with the 3 dimples and I haven't had to adjust blade tension at all after the first couple of flights. I know these are a little heavier than the Maniac-2 blades so maybe not a fair comparison but I find auto performance is exceptional, 360 auto's are easy and hang time is ridiculous.

              I bought a set of Torsion 600 blades from Midland on thursday to try on my Trex 600 which has also been running Maniac blades for a good while. I tried them out yesterday and had problems with tracking, they were fine in idle-up 1 at 1850rpm but were going near an inch out of track in idle-up 2 running 2000rpm although this was also inconsistent, sometimes it was less. I refitted the Maniacs this morning and had no problem with tracking.

              I'm guessing it may be a damper issue, they've been in the 600 for a while now although I have the plastic tube fitted, they feel pretty good but may be getting a little soggy so I'll order a new set and try the Torsions again.

              I had a chat with Noel Cross when I was in the shop and he was singing the praises of the Torsion blades, commenting that the only slight down side with the 600 blades was slightly reduced auto performance. My own experience is that the 600 size Torsions are only slightly worse than the Maniacs which I find to be excellent.

              The quality of the Torsion blades is very good, the finish is spotless and I notice neither blade has a silicon plug on the underside, unlike the Maniacs, which shows good quality control.
              Steve H

              http://www.himbletonRChelicopters.co.uk
              Trex 600N, Trex 700N, now 3G!, Raptor E550 now in fetching Hughes 500E, Trex 250, Trex 500CF, Trex 550E 3G, Beam E4, Outrage 550, Logo 500 3D.

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              • #8
                Hi Steve,
                That sounds about right to me - although I suspect dampers on the tracking issue you mention. The 600mm Torsions I'm using are spot on.

                For me, the performance of the 600mm Torsions is very good, but IMO not the best - I still consider V Blades in 600mm form to be the best for me.

                The 710mm blades are streets ahead of the competition IMO.
                Cheers,
                Rob
                Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

                | 3D Championship

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                • #9
                  I am loving the 600 radix stick bangers at the moment, love the 690 V's but waiting for the extremmes to come out before getting any more
                  James

                  Sponsored by
                  Align-Trex.co.uk
                  Optifuel/optipower
                  MKS servotech


                  5 Eddie gold stars and christmas star

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by t-rex pedro View Post
                    Thanks Rob.

                    Based on your review I think I'll try some Torsions next time. They seem pretty good!
                    And another here following the great review will be purchasing some 710's for my 700.

                    Thanks Rob.

                    One thing I will say about you mate, You always give a balanced opinion good or bad.

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                    • #11
                      Put some 690 radix on the new 700 today and its running lovely

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Tim!

                        No point talking out of your ar$e is there
                        I just say it as I see it
                        Cheers,
                        Rob
                        Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

                        | 3D Championship

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StuSmith View Post
                          Put some 690 radix on the new 700 today and its running lovely
                          Whats the new engine like stu, better than the old one
                          James

                          Sponsored by
                          Align-Trex.co.uk
                          Optifuel/optipower
                          MKS servotech


                          5 Eddie gold stars and christmas star

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                          • #14
                            Much better so good that adie has decided to start my 700 build yippeeeee!! Nah its seriously shit hot as iv only flown 50's before im loving the 90!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by StuSmith View Post
                              Much better so good that adie has decided to start my 700 build yippeeeee!! Nah its seriously shit hot as iv only flown 50's before im loving the 90!
                              Be interesting for you to fly my 700 and compare the YS to the new OS Stu. The YS romps but I dont have anything to compare it too (90 wise).
                              Pete



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