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    Bit confused about what the pitch should be set at at mid stick in normal mode it makes sense to me to have 0 pitch at mid stick but the align manual says it should be +5? Can someone shed some light on this please.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Reltub View Post
    Bit confused about what the pitch should be set at at mid stick in normal mode it makes sense to me to have 0 pitch at mid stick but the align manual says it should be +5? Can someone shed some light on this please.

    Thanks
    I always set my heli's up with 0 pitch at mid stick, Both normal and idle up have the same linear pitch curve above mid stick. my idle up pitch curve is 0-25-50-75-100 with 50 being 0 pitch and approximately -12 and +12.

    this endures that the heli feels identical both upside down and upright.
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    • #3
      0 at mid stick regardless of mode.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ghost2212 View Post
        I always set my heli's up with 0 pitch at mid stick, Both normal and idle up have the same linear pitch curve above mid stick. my idle up pitch curve is 0-25-50-75-100 with 50 being 0 pitch and approximately -12 and +12.

        this endures that the heli feels identical both upside down and upright.
        plus 1 here mate
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        • #5
          Sound thanks guys!! Im slowing starting to get my head around the set up side! I was just unsure wether i should follow the manual or not, also if pitch at mid stick was 5 like the manual says when you flick to idle 1 the heli pitch will change and poss cause problems is that right?

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          • #6
            All depends where the other curves are, that's why the 0 at mid isn't a bad idea for all curves
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            • #7
              Yeah i see thanks alot

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              • #8
                yes thats absolutely right. Well kind of:

                if you want a smooth transition between normal and idle up 1, 2, 3, e.t.c. you need to have the pitch settings when you change identical. Most people will change in a hover I guess, so you would need to have your hover pitches identical.... this becomes a pain in the ar$" though as this will change with wind, headspeed e.t.c

                I run full negative - 0 - full positive on IU2, 80% neg - 0 - 80% positive on IU1, and -5 -2.5 0 5 10 degrees on my normal.

                Most people will talk about % on a pitch curve, i.e. 0, 25, 50, 75, 100, but this will not necessarily give you a linear pitch curve as the servo output is non-linear. I think that some FBL systems correct for this.
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                • #9
                  as above, if you don't have the same pitch at mid stick on all modes then your heli will jump when you switch to idle up.
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                  • #10
                    Hey.

                    What kind of flying are you doing or are aiming towards?
                    If its 3D then go with a zero centre stick setup, however if its more F3C/scale type flying then setting say 4degrees at mid stick for your hover point will make for a much more controlled collective response, as you will be spreading the overall pitch range over a larger stick travel range. With a -10 ~ 0 ~ +10 setup pitch response is quite aggressive as you have 10 degrees of pitch set within one half of stick travel.

                    If you only intend to do loops and rolls a -4/6 ~ +4 ~ +10/12 will be a good pitch range and be smooth in the hover.

                    The F3C troop use the above settings for normal mode, to allow precise hovering control, but set zero centre stick in idle ups so they can easily find zero pitch when needed. You do have to be aware of the jump in collective when switching through flight modes as mentioned above, but you get the best of both worlds.
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                    Last edited by coolice; 16-08-2012, 11:36 PM.
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                    • #11
                      I'd just go straight to 0degrees mid stick, if you're a beginner something like 4-5 degrees from mid to bottom and whatever you like up top, possibly 10-12 degrees depending on what you're comfortable with
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                      • #12
                        Im still a beginner but feel comfortable with the pitch at 0 as this is what i have set my trex 600 to and i prefer it. Thanks for all the help

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Reltub View Post
                          Im still a beginner but feel comfortable with the pitch at 0 as this is what i have set my trex 600 to and i prefer it. Thanks for all the help
                          Hey.

                          If you're aiming for 3D flight then its best to get used to zero centre stick now, than have to get used to it later down the line. I used to have all my flight modes hovering at mid stick and only went zero centre in the last 6-8 years, so experienced the retraining of knowing where zero was.
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