twister 3d storm

[wilo76]

Hi guy,s i have finaly got my t3ds today and have given it a check over to make sure every thing is tight . but i noticed that the blue/black and red wire from the speed controler are not conected to the motor . i thought it would just be common sense and be blue to blue - black to black and red to red , but in the manual it shows black to red - white to blue and red to black .my speed controler doesnt even have a white wire like the one in the picture . any thoughts pls as i dont want to connect the lipo till i know for sure .

[tourerjim]

You can connect wires in any order difference will be motor direction so if motor spins wrong direction just swap two wiroes around.

[wilo76]

You can connect wires in any order difference will be motor direction so if motor spins wrong direction just swap two wiroes around.

Thanks for your quick reply i can now give the heli its first maiden flight/crash lol, well as soon as this damn wind calms down .

[cjcj1949]

I started with a Twister Storm and regretted it.

The manual is wrong in many places and the Twister Storm does not live up to its description. To be fair it does say that it is not suitable for beginners and it is not too bad if you don't crash it. One of the other problems is that the esc is shown mounted inwards, the heatsink should be outside, not touching the frame. The esc is in the wrong place, it should be behind the canopy, like on a trex.

The DX7 setup is wrong as well and will make your swash go the wrong way. There is good setup info for the Blade400 which is similar but slightly better and at least the manufacturer of the Blade has a website. There are stickies by Boggy in the Blade400 section. I hope you have a better experience with it than I did. It cost me at least 6 months in trying to find out the things that were going wrong.

Chris

[wilo76]

Thx for the heads up Chris , its been to windy to fly yet but i did power it up in the kitchen today and well lets just say this thing scares the crap out of me . its the first 6ch heli iv ever seen powered up(in the flesh) and the difference between the storm and my cx is vast even tho they are both 450s. i must admit tho when im flying the contra 450 all i think about is i hope i dont crash this again ,but...... when i powered this baby up all i could think was ... i hope this thing doesnt head my way lol. i have been told by my lhs that storms are skitty and if i can master flying a storm i will be able to fly any heli, is this advice sound ? , as im using this heli to up my skill in preperation for the awaited elyq 50e .

[Boggy]

if its set up right it can be as tame as a pussy cat

[cjcj1949]

It's only half true. I'm not a good heli flyer, I'm at the starting to use idleup stage. The point is that things are easy when you can do them. They seem impossible when you can't. There isn't much inbetween the two. I've just frightened myself a bit because I've changed my pitch and throttle curves to be able to switch from normal to idleup. I checked it on the sim, but it was still the first time I'd tried it and it was different, so scary. With the HK450, same as a twister in size and power I don't find it scary and can hover it and fly about with no bother, but in the beginning it was very hairy and I had lots of crashes. What you have to do is keep practising until you don't have to think. Then you can go on to the next stage. 450s aren't twitchy, they just respond quickly. I'm 62 and if I can handle one so can anyone, if they practice.

I have found the msr and the Phoenix sim to be very useful. The msr is very close to the real thing but it survives crashes.

The half that is true about any 450, is that you would be hard pressed to find anything harder to fly. (Except a Walkera 4#3B)

Chris

[cjcj1949]

if its set up right it can be as tame as a pussy cat

A bloody cross pussycat. Boggies sticky does give you the best chance. (Ask him if you can borrow his gyro as well). Lots of people will tell you their Blade is ok, but they won't mention the upgrades.

[wilo76]

will have a look at Boggies sticky (thx), i hope i get to stage soon where i can fly the storm without thinking too much .iv got the training gear on and the lipo fully charged and now hope the weather is calm tommorow so i can have my first test on what i consider i proper heli .i thought i was addicted before , but just hearing this thing power up has just refueled my addiction to new levels lol.

[zoombolt]

Follow the Radds school of flight too. It gives you a fair crack at learning to fly in a controlled way.

RADD'S SCHOOL OF ROTARY FLIGHT?

I started on the t3ds to, it's a good cheap way of getting your orientations down & helps dull the 'jesus christ, it's gonna kill everyone' nerves. I liked mine, although they don't like anything above a slight breeze.

When you feel more capable of flying in the wind, it'll probably be time to move on anyway.
Good luck with it

[dogbiscuit]

check out the "helicopterfun" web site. it has lots of info on the blade 400 (very similar to yours). a friend of mine recently downloaded his e book on seting up 400/450 size helis. i had a read and there is loads of good information in it . well recomended for the begginer with a blade or twister, or any similar size heli. it has curves for your 1st hover, right through to advanced 3d and shows you how to adjust them each time you progress a little. saves a lot of time searching around also, as everything you need to know is covered in one place

[cjcj1949]

Don't try to hover before you can hop. Use the hop to check out the trim and get it dead right. Don't forget that the heli needs to tilt to the right to hover and that as it takes off horisontal it will move to the left until you get it tilted to the right.

Chris

[wilo76]

Thank you for all the info guy,s , this is without a doubt the best heli forum on the net . still to damn windy where i live to fly a real heli never mind a rc heli but will try the hop technique (thx Chris)as soon as weather permits . i wasnt aware of the storms flight characteristics IE tilting to the right to hover so more research is needed me thinks as i am still not sure how to change pitch curves or what it actually does to the heli,s flight characteristics???. Im real glad i know you guy,s as i feel such a noob at present lol and feel iv got a long way to go before my first 3d attempt . I think i will try find a club or peeps local to me so i can be shown first hand how to set up the storm/pitch curves etc . thx again guys

[cjcj1949]

That lean to the left is not to do with the storm. It's to do with physics. If the rotor goes round one way, something has to stop the heli doing the same, that's what the tail does. For the tail to stop the rotation it needs to produce a force. This force (to the left on most helis) will accelearte the heli to the left until you tilt the rotor to the right to balnce the force. Don't think about it though, you just do it. Radd doesn't mention it though.