Radio Setup & Trex 600 Settings

[Delta7]

You may have seen my other similar posts and I understand different factors come into play and that you cannot just copy anothers setup, but with a new to me 600LE that has been flown by me on the previous owner Spektrum setup, I am on Futuba, I have the head moving all correctly but a couple of niggly things still remain, I did get some base settings from another flyer with the same T7C Tx and 600LE and will post them below alongside my settings in the same radio for my Raptor 50 which flies superbly and setting wise is suited for my flying style, so they may be useful as a reference point to someone else on the Raptor side, but would like some feedback on the 600 side please !

24th Nov 2010 Futaba T7C Settings.doc

Raptor 5 Trex 600LE

D/R & EXP
Ch1-Ail D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -20% -20%
Ch2-Ele D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -20% -20%
Ch4 Rud D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -10% -20%

End Points
Ch1 75% - 75% 100% - 100%
Ch2 75% - 75% 100% - 100%
Ch3 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch4 110% - 110% 100% - 100%
Ch5 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch6 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch7 70% - 70% 55% - 70%

Reverse
Nor 2,5,6,7 2,5,6,7
Rev 1,3,4 1,3,4

TH-Cut
Rate -15% 0%
THR +12% 5%
SW H H

Swash
HR3 AIL - -50%
Ele - -50%
Pit - +50%

Paremeter
Type H-1 HR3
Ch5 SW - E
Ch7 SW - B

TH – CRV P5 to P1
Normal 100-80-60-35-10 100-75-50-35-15
Idle 1 100-82-65-82-100 100-75-50-60-70
Idle 2 100-100-100-100-100 100-75-50-75-100

PI – CRV P5 to P1
Normal 100-75-50-42.5-35 100-75-50-35-20
Idle 1 100-75-50-35-20 100-75-50-35-25
Idle 2 100-75-50-25-0 100-75-50-25-0

GYRO
SW D SW B
UP A 90% 50%
DN A 85% 50%
Gyro On On
SW D B
Mode GY STD

TH-HOLD
Pos +15% +15%

Governor
Up 85% 0%
Centre - 50%
Dn 90% 100%
Mix On INH
SW D E
Dir +LIMIT +LIMIT

As you can see, the higlighted yellow bits a different and concern me, so comments / advice please ! Couple of switch selection conflicts come to light so I think it's good to write these settings down sometimes !

I think this is a TJ Rev limititor which would be the same for my Raptor, so need to check these setting on the 600 too?
600limiter.jpg

Also, the tail seems to be very slow, is this normal or related to one of the setting I have above. I did follow the instruction for the GP780 gyro and set the limits of travel for the rudder.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mewgLinWL_8"]YouTube - DDDVideoDoug Movies2010Nov 2010trex600SlowTailMovement.mp4[/ame]

Thanks in advance !

[Delta7]

sorry about the formatting and spacing, I had it all nicely laid out and it's lost in here!

Word Attachment added in above post now for a better settings layout !

[adieuk]

what tail servo are you useing

[Delta7]

what tail servo are you useing

9254.
Also it is a TJ Rev Limiter I have fitted.
Cheers.

[Delta7]

I switched on my tx with the raptor selected and the rudder on the 600 moved fine and was very responsive so it must be a tx setting slowing it down ?

[Mslater]

It's very difficult to do stuff like this across the Web, there is something very wrong with the rudder, I presume you are in head hold on the video.

Looks like you might have some dual rate issues.

You can't compare the raptor settings they are just not valid, even the setting for another 600 would probably be a mile out.

Are you anywhere near north london ? There is a school out at northolt, for a few quid Mark or Dave will set it up and test it for you.

[Mslater]

Settings from the Word document look reasonable but like I said you can't really go on that.

Only thing to watch is that you have your gyro set up on switch B but channel 7 (govenor I think) is also on the same switch.

That might be your tail problem.

Switch E is also effecting the Gyro !!!

[vartegrich]

You may have seen my other similar posts and I understand different factors come into play and that you cannot just copy anothers setup, but with a new to me 600LE that has been flown by me on the previous owner Spektrum setup, I am on Futuba, I have the head moving all correctly but a couple of niggly things still remain, I did get some base settings from another flyer with the same T7C Tx and 600LE and will post them below alongside my settings in the same radio for my Raptor 50 which flies superbly and setting wise is suited for my flying style, so they may be useful as a reference point to someone else on the Raptor side, but would like some feedback on the 600 side please !

[ATTACH]19475[/ATTACH]

Raptor 5 Trex 600LE

D/R & EXP
Ch1-Ail D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -20% -20%
Ch2-Ele D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -20% -20%
Ch4 Rud D/R SW D 100% SW D 100%
Exp -10% -20%

End Points
Ch1 75% - 75% 100% - 100%
Ch2 75% - 75% 100% - 100%
Ch3 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch4 110% - 110% 100% - 100%
Ch5 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch6 100% - 100% 100% - 100%
Ch7 70% - 70% 55% - 70%

Reverse
Nor 2,5,6,7 2,5,6,7
Rev 1,3,4 1,3,4

TH-Cut
Rate -15% 0%
THR +12% 5%
SW H H

Swash
HR3 AIL - -50%
Ele - -50%
Pit - +50%

Paremeter
Type H-1 HR3
Ch5 SW - E
Ch7 SW - B

TH – CRV P5 to P1
Normal 100-80-60-35-10 100-75-50-35-15
Idle 1 100-82-65-82-100 100-75-50-60-70
Idle 2 100-100-100-100-100 100-75-50-75-100

PI – CRV P5 to P1
Normal 100-75-50-42.5-35 100-75-50-35-20
Idle 1 100-75-50-35-20 100-75-50-35-25
Idle 2 100-75-50-25-0 100-75-50-25-0

GYRO
SW D SW B
UP A 90% 50%
DN A 85% 50%
Gyro On On
SW D B
Mode GY STD

TH-HOLD
Pos +15% +15%

Governor
Up 85% 0%
Centre - 50%
Dn 90% 100%
Mix On INH
SW D E
Dir +LIMIT +LIMIT

As you can see, the higlighted yellow bits a different and concern me, so comments / advice please ! Couple of switch selection conflicts come to light so I think it's good to write these settings down sometimes !

I think this is a TJ Rev limititor which would be the same for my Raptor, so need to check these setting on the 600 too?
[ATTACH]19474[/ATTACH]

Also, the tail seems to be very slow, is this normal or related to one of the setting I have above. I did follow the instruction for the GP780 gyro and set the limits of travel for the rudder.
YouTube - DDDVideoDoug Movies2010Nov 2010trex600SlowTailMovement.mp4

Thanks in advance !

I have a stock 600LE and a Futaba FF9.
I've attached my settings to the left of yours on your document, if they are of any use to you.

[Delta7]

Thanks for taking the time Vart - the tail now moves correctly and fast ! Must have been a switch conflict as you and Mslater mentioned ! Checking pitch readings now, think I've got far to much, but will update in a bit !

[Delta7]

Ok I'm getting no binding of the swash plate now as I was before in Idle 2, but I'm still getting far too much pitch, here's the measurments I've just read from the pitch curve I've just set, would do I need to do to reduce positive pitch and what is recommend for the 600 LE +11 to -11 ?

Mode P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
N 56.5 66 77.5 88 96- lowered this to stop servo buzzing
pitch 2 5 9 12 14
Idle1 47 56 72.5 86 100
pitch -1 2 7 12 15 !!
Idle2 47 56 72.5 86 100
pitch -6 -2 4 9 15!!

My flying is fast forward sports flying with basic aerobatics, and hovering inverted. Cheers.

[Delta7]

bump on this too cold to go out day off !
Got the 600 manual from http://video.align.com.tw/mpeg/manua...X600%20NSP.pdf
and it recommends pitch 10-12 -+ so I will mess around with settings and pitch curves again to reduce it from 15 I'm currently getting !