Underpowered after new items?

[Eckchaz]

Evening peeps..

Recently, I treated my 600 to, main and tail Edge FBL blades and a Outrage 55 pipe from the Align items. I went for a flight friday, and the heli felt underpowered and bogged alot on hard moves, which it didnt do before? but on the other hand.. on fast flights the heli had faster cyclic moves? On landing, I thought I heard the bearing going in the 55, so changed them last nite (but there was nothing wrong with the bearings). All sorted and took it out again today. And again the heli felt underpowered again and bogged.. I had lean out the main needle to 1 turn out, which was 10 clicks from normal to get the heli back to what it was with the align pipe

My question is, I thought people richened the supply, as the 55 pipe allowed the engine to produce more power but I'm doing the opposite, to achieve this and is my faster cyclics just down to my new FBL blades? It flew great before these mods and I cant see what I can do wrong.. Any comments will be appreciated, otherwise I'm going to chuck the Align stuff back on it?

[Nick B]

Huuummmm,one turn on my 55 with 55 pipe would be far to lean,would bog in fast pitch changes but give higher headspeed in hover(faster cyclics).think your far to lean on the high speed needle

Im 1.25 on high and the medium is slightly richer at 2-3 clicks richer than 1.25.

Was the backplate hot??

[barney]

Hi Eddie, different blades require different Pitch settings as the weighting/drag/airfoil etc differ.

Brian

[Eckchaz]

Huuummmm,one turn on my 55 with 55 pipe would be far to lean,would bog in fast pitch changes but give higher headspeed in hover(faster cyclics).think your far to lean on the high speed needle

Im 1.25 on high and the medium is slightly richer at 2-3 clicks richer than 1.25.

Was the backplate hot??

Hi Nick,

With the Align Pipe, I was about 1 1/3 on mid and 1 1/4 on high.. With the 55 pipe, i'm now 1 & 3 clicks on mid and 1 on high to get it like the Align pipe.. I know i'm running too lean with to much needle movement but cant fathom why I need to with a better pipe to get the same performance? And yes the finger test on backplate is about right.

So, should I just have gone richer and try that out?

[glen_j]

changing the pipe will change the tune of the engine so you may have to change the needles, have you felt the backplate to make sure its not too hot? if its not hot it isn't lean

[Nick B]

Best way is to go back to basics,go 1.5 on both and re-tune as per manual

[Eckchaz]

Hmm.. back to basics it is