Esky Honey bee king 2 ... help!!!

[smithysamrc]

I have a Esky Honey bee king 2, that i bought off someone.

It uses a GY400 Gyro and it looks asthough its working, but when ever i take off it just starts spinning, and it seems like the more power i add the more the heli spins.
So i try to compensate the opposite way but it just spins the same way even quicker?

The heli uses all stock setup, tx and rx 35.200mhz, brushless, 30 amp esc, 11.1v 1000mah battery, and a esky 7.5g servo for the tail, and the GY400 Gyro.

Please help as im desperate to get this in the air.

If you want photos just say.

Thanks

[RotaryOne]

Well done, Sam. Hope you get some helpful comments back. I will monitor this thread.
Nigel

[cupracing]

is the tail servo working?

the gyro may be reversed if it is

Also im pretty certain the Gy400 is a non heading hold gyro so input is required

[simon1]

is the tail servo working?

the gyro may be reversed if it is

Also the Gy400 is a non heading hold gyro so input is required

Your could have extreme mechanical binding from your pushrod so its stuck in one direction

[smithysamrc]

The gyro is a rate gyro, so no its not Head Holding.

As i take of it seems fine (alittle unstable), but once i have about a 5 second hover and try to start moving around the helicopter will just start spinning and when i try to compensate for the spinning it just spins even more.

The gyro is in Normal mode (not reversed).

Any ideas

I could take a quick video of it to show you what i mean

[cupracing]

The gyro is a rate gyro, so no its not Head Holding.

As i take of it seems fine (alittle unstable), but once i have about a 5 second hover and try to start moving around the helicopter will just start spinning and when i try to compensate for the spinning it just spins even more.

The gyro is in Normal mode (not reversed).

Any ideas

I could take a quick video of it to show you what i mean

a video would help certainly

[smithysamrc]

a video would help certainly

I will try to get one done tomorrow, just powered it up then and didnt seem to want to take off, ive been adjusting the linkages on the rotor head to get the tracking right, and now i think i've adjusted them wrongly because the heli can barely take off, maybe the pitch angle is wrong.

Is it common for heli's to have bad tracking when they use those CF looking foam blades, should i use wooden blades?

thanks

[lex7919]

Hi

even though its not a HH gyro it can still be sensing in the wrong direction
with heli turned on hold the tail and swing it to the right (with tail blade parraelle to the Boom) the leading edge needs to move left try to swing the tail in a slow long arc as its harder to see in rate mode.

If it doesnt you need to reverse the gyro, actually on the gyro! not on the tx.

after that have you checked rudder is opperating in the right direction for the given stick inputs?

and have you set up the tail pitch so its mechanically correct, to hold the tail in the hover?


Alex

The gyro is a rate gyro, so no its not Head Holding.

As i take of it seems fine (alittle unstable), but once i have about a 5 second hover and try to start moving around the helicopter will just start spinning and when i try to compensate for the spinning it just spins even more.

The gyro is in Normal mode (not reversed).

Any ideas

I could take a quick video of it to show you what i mean

[lex7919]

I will try to get one done tomorrow, just powered it up then and didnt seem to want to take off, ive been adjusting the linkages on the rotor head to get the tracking right, and now i think i've adjusted them wrongly because the heli can barely take off, maybe the pitch angle is wrong.

Is it common for heli's to have bad tracking when they use those CF looking foam blades, should i use wooden blades?

thanks

Yeah bin them blades there shocking! You will chase tracking and vibe issues forever with them on wooden blades would be much better.

[smithysamrc]

after that have you checked rudder is opperating in the right direction for the given stick inputs?

and have you set up the tail pitch so its mechanically correct, to hold the tail in the hover?


Alex

Yes the tail moves in the correct direction, and the pitch of the tail blades seem ok.

Say im about to take off, its in a low hover and then when you do any input the tail will start reacting, and it'll spin to the left, i try to compensate and push the stick to the right, but the heli spins left even quicker, so then i have to land.

Its lucky i have my training gear.

[robski]

Sounds like your trying to fly the tail instead of the nose if this makes sence.most people fly the nose ie when its spinning to the left you should be giving left rudder to compensate.picture yourself sitting in the heli and its tail spins left the nose is turning right so left rudder is used.
hope this isnt confusing.

cheers Davy

[smithysamrc]

Sounds like your trying to fly the tail instead of the nose if this makes sence.most people fly the nose ie when its spinning to the left you should be giving left rudder to compensate.picture yourself sitting in the heli and its tail spins left the nose is turning right so left rudder is used.
hope this isnt confusing.

cheers Davy

Im sorry, i dont want to come across rude, but i know how to fly a helicopter, and i have had many before.

What im trying to say is that the heli's tail seems too ..... unsensitive and seems to spin uncontrolably, it just spins freely as if theres no gyro there, but the gyro looks like its working, the lights on and it compensates to movement, i just dont understand whats wrong with it.

I'll try to get a video of me trying to fly it, Thats if the weather holds up here in the U.K.

[robski]

sorry about that m8 just when you said tail goes left you press right makes it sounds wrong.made it sound if you were new to this.
btw if its the colco gy400 it is head hold i used to have one. dont think esky tx has remote gain so dont know if it will work in headhold or not.

[lex7919]

How much gain has it got dialed in??

What servo do you have on it?

Have you ot a link to the gyro and its manual ??

[graz]

Had something very similar to what you have there smithysamrc, Just rebuilt my belt cp after yet again catching the blades on the grass a while back. I spent ages getting the pitch and tracking and all perfectly aligned and as soon as it got light on the skids it spun round like a spinning top, applied opposite on the tail and it just spun faster. I thought what the hell? Then it dawned on me after the rebuild I thought maybe I had mounted servo on different side this time?
Moved the dip switch on the gyro from normal to reverse and it was fine then. Had been a while since I broke it and and stripped it down and I forgot what side I servo on when I fitted a new boom ;-)
Well I am a newbie and thats my excuse . LOL