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  • #31
    Having originally built Rachels machine. It was converted from Flybarred to flybarless using the Mikardo coversion kit, and originally flown with a full sized VBar - With absolutely no wobble or deviation, it was subsequently converted to the clubs first Total G, again with no vibration, or wobble issues. In both cases the set-up involved trailing edge pitch control. This would suggest the issue is something that has changed more recently.
    Justin

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    • #32
      I always thought FBL controllers were best with LE controls, but I can't remember the reason behind it.
      Harry

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      • #33
        Its worth reading the thread posted earlier....


        [LEFT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]If the ball link happens to be on the same side of the MR shaft as the blade it is controlling (right side of the MR shaft, controlling the right hand blade coming at you, leading edge control at this point), as the blade pivots up, the link will actually work to pull the leading edge back down, decreasing pitch, stopping the upward excursion of the blade. This is, in essence, negative feedback, damping out wild blade excursions.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]If the ball link is on the other side of the centerline (left side of the MR shaft centerline for the right hand, leading edge controlled blade coming at you)as the blade pivots up, the geometry will actually cause the pitch controlling link to add in even more pitch, allowing the blade to fly even higher. This is positive feedback, and in most control systems, if not carefully controlled, it leads to an unstable condition.[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]

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        • #34
          Just too add to this thread I decided to "flip the grip" lol and in fact I built my own , raided from the align parts bin rotor head.
          I called it " Frankenhead" :nevreness:

          I used a 600 super pro fbl head block and a short 600 nitro fbl main shaft , I also spun the standard blade grips over so the set up was leading edge.
          This does mean the grip bolts are in nut uppermost , but hey I fly upside down a lot.

          The mod works very well but to be honest at my level of flying I didn't notice any difference at all.

          Just a fun thing to try.

          :-) Rachel

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          • #35
            My chopped up std head to go flybarless with beastX on my 600n uses LE control and flies nice. Using KDDD oranges that are lasting really well.
            Bit of a pain accessing the grip bolts on the bottom though.
            www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
            600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
            trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
            "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
            MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

            Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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