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**LipolyGone** · 25-10-2007, 10:22 PM

Dont forget Lewis's idle threats of going else where for next year due to politics of the sport I wonder.
The fact that Ecclestone yet again predicted kimmi to win on brundles grid walk, was he in the know?[quote=Raptor50luvver;84613]Just wondered what your views were on this years F1 title and whether it was rigged to let Ferrai win maybe as part of the settlement in the spying row..

loads of people coming forward including Eddie Jordan

[URL]http://www.grandprixweekly.com/Jump/?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecrash%2Enet%2Fmotorsport%2Ff1%2Fnews%2F156357%2D0%2Fej%5Fadds%5Fvoice%5Fto%5Fconspiracy%5Ftheories%2Ehtml&title=EJ%20adds%20voice%20to%20conspiracy%20theories%2E[/URL]

some points..

Why if the car was deemed illegal by the FIA did the drivers not also lose their points?,,would it be anything to do with viewing figures dropping if they did?

Why did Maclaren so obviously keep Hamilton out in China for so long on shot tyres?

Why did they make him do a 3rd stop in Brazil when he could have had a couple of seconds extra fuel on stop 2 and that woulda give him the title,,is it because their engineered engine cutout failed to hold him back?

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**ChrisB** · 25-10-2007, 10:25 PM

Good points there Martin

There is a lot of rumbling on about this from people in the know so i am sure there is some element of truth

I wonder what would have happened if Kimi broke down though?

**LipolyGone** · 25-10-2007, 10:29 PM

Quite simply the bastad spaniard who brought mclarren into disrepute would have one.
They couldnt engineer him an engine cut out because the fia had a scrutineer watching there every move all weekend.

**ChrisB** · 25-10-2007, 10:33 PM

Whats also funny is that the ITV F1 forum has had all posts debating this removed:D

[url]http://forums.itv.com/thread/550950.aspx[/url]

**Biggles** · 25-10-2007, 10:45 PM

Bloody conspiracy theories....again

What's done is done...move on.

I mean are there really little green men in area 51?
Did the U.S. government have something do do with 9/11?
Did man really step foot on the moon??
Were Furbies used for spying on us???

What if the F1 was fixed what will be done???? NOTHING!!!

The powers that be will always do something whether it be controversial or not if it fits their needs.

In any sport there has and always will be underhand tactics to get a means to an end!

No point going on about it.

Rant over.:D

**ChrisB** · 25-10-2007, 10:52 PM

Dont get me started on the moon landings:D

The point was that for several years people have suggested that the FIA is bent,but when a sports wins almost gets fettled off the track kinda makes you wonder why bother starting the engines:confused:

**Biggles** · 25-10-2007, 10:59 PM

didn't somebody from the FIA [B][I][U]ALLEDGEDLY[/U][/I][/B] say that ferrari is the most important team in F1????

Remember this is just [B][I][U]alledgedly[/U][/I][/B] what was said so just saying that this [B][I][U]alledgedly [/U][/I][/B]might not be the truth.

Who knows???? ([B][I][U]alledgedly[/U][/I][/B] of course)

:D:D:D

**zx6rjey** · 25-10-2007, 11:03 PM

Its amazing what can be done to an F1 car from the pits whilst its on the track......................... Isnt it :cool:

**Biggles** · 25-10-2007, 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=zx6rjey;84638]Its amazing what can be done to an F1 car from the pits whilst its on the track......................... Isnt it :cool:[/QUOTE]

[B][I][U]Alledgedly[/U][/I][/B] of course!!!

**moyesboy** · 25-10-2007, 11:18 PM

Yes I think it was fixed.
It will never be proven, or admitted.
Like all the competitors, we can only hope for a clean sport next year where the best team/driver wins.
Competitors in most sports are eternal optimists, or they would have given up ages ago. Most sports have regular moments of unfairness. Sportmen just have to put up with it and get on with the job.
No sporting result has ever been turned over in the court after the trophies were given out as far as I know!

**mchristyuk** · 25-10-2007, 11:27 PM

Biggles,

Not alleged.. its written in to all the agreements.. Ferrari get more money than the other teams from the television rights in the concorde agreement that governs the sport. However the other teams also recongnise Ferrari as being important to F1.. but before people get their backs up.. there is a reason for this.

Ferrari are the only team/manufacturer to have consisted every single championship since its inception.

BWM, Renault, Honda, Ford, Mercedes, Peugeot, et all have all come and gone when it has suited them.

The manufacturers have come into F1 for its "magic" to rub off on their road going products.. when they've done cr@p they've packed their bags and gone home.. Ferrari have stuck with the championship whether they've done well (Schumacher years) or cr@p (80's).. so they are very highly regarded by the people that run the sport.

My personal belief is that Kimi won the title fair and square.. and I think the FAI are rather relieved about this.

Both Max and Bernie thought that the McLaren drivers should have been kicked out of the championship as well as the team as they had clearly been in breach of the rules and regulations to a very grave extent.

However it wasn't their call and the jury decided to keep the drivers in "for the sake of the championship".

But what would the backlash been like if a McLaren driver had won considering the team and car had been declared "Tainted goods"?

McLarens downfall wasn't what they did per se.. we all know that spying goes on at one level or another in F1... what did them in was their constant denials that nobody in the team knew of it apart from Coughlan.. when it transpires the Driver, Test Driver and elements of the upper management were all in on it and Dennis still played the honesty card... well.. much sympathy vanished over night.

Kimi deserved that title. Himself and Massa kept their mouths shut and did their talking on the track.

Cheers

Mark

**ChrisB** · 25-10-2007, 11:28 PM

Old Formula one video games

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CmGUzuSW5PU[/ame] Commodore 64

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EUK_1AKsSuk[/ame] Commodore Amiga

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0IQmUgDIC9E[/ame] Sega Megadrive/Mega Cd

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jTtQuGXa4DU[/ame] Ps1

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Iu40Hk4a4[/ame] PS2

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2ghM8KHm7qk[/ame] The daddy PS3

**Biggles** · 25-10-2007, 11:33 PM

Was Bernie not the one that disagreed with the drivers being booted out???

**ChrisB** · 25-10-2007, 11:38 PM

Back on topic,i am pleased for Kimi though:)

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