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**sacko** · 06-07-2011, 09:33 AM

Its the schools responsibility to create a safe environment for the students, put the onus on the Head.

Their should be sufficient supervision in place to prevent this from happening, obviously they cant be everywhere at once though.

**Nick B** · 06-07-2011, 09:35 AM

Luke needs to hit him back,as two wrongs make it even.for gods sake,don't hit the lad yourself,Gareth!
Teach him to stand up for himself as theres little else YOU can do :(

**spykeuk** · 06-07-2011, 09:38 AM

working in a school envionment, i would say Get LUKE to report HIM not you, LUKE. Everytime something happends. Yes teach him to stick up for himself but teach him the finer points. using authority to your advantage, failing this yes get him in kickboxing.

**moonmanflyer** · 06-07-2011, 09:42 AM

Been there with my lad and it is hell.
I ended up calling a meeting with the head master and saying if one more incident occurred I would be going to the police and local press.
It stopped over night
Be all and end all, even though they are kids, it is still assault

**Jamin_00** · 06-07-2011, 09:42 AM

This is something every parent dreads mate and I sympathise.

What can you do, not a lot apart from keep bringing it to the teachers attention, if nothing happens tell the head your going to the board or whatever they call it.

There was an incident at my little girls school, thankfully not involving her but a young kid from a wrecked home etc etc was bullying others and it went on for a little while before something was done and he did get taken out of the school. But then I do think quite a few parents got involved. Get the mrs (I take it she does the school run) to talk to the other mums and see if any other kids are getting bullied then all report it, they will have to listen.

**Gav** · 06-07-2011, 09:44 AM

I feel for you Gareth. The little sh1t needs to be humiliated in front of the entire school or something. You need to clamp down on the school (head teacher) and get this nipped in the bud. It is up to them to sort but you have to be firm with the school youself and make it clear how you feel etc. This way you wont get locked up - but considering the harm done to your poor lad, it is also worth a trip round the parents house too and say what you have to say to the low life kackers. good luck but get something in place at the school first.

**Leo77** · 06-07-2011, 10:02 AM

I would agree with James, start with a meeting with the head of the school and tell them you will get the police and local paper envolved if it don't stop, bullying is a real problem in schools and when it gets to physical harm level, needs stopping quickly.

**Made2Fade** · 06-07-2011, 10:10 AM

Gareth get him off to some boxing coaching and teach him to fight back. IMO its the only way. 2 wrongs dont make a right BTW but... if he starts to handle himself better i bet nobody will take the mick in the future. I would definately take it up further with the head though and tell them you wont be responsible for what happens if your lad one day looses his rag. And it will happen (whether he learns to handle himself or not), we all have a breaking point. Better it happens and he can fight though ;).

**Mark_T** · 06-07-2011, 10:15 AM

Sounds like it has already escalated to the point where I'd be involving the Police as what you describe would appear to amount to ABH.

Don't go near the parents, their house or the child, that way just opens you up to a world of problems.

Teaching your son to stand up for himself is one thing, but it sounds like the other kid is training for something entirely different if he is returning a push with a combination such as you describe.

In your position I'd be asking for a meeting with the head and making it perfectly clear that your next stop is the Police unless he can convince you that your son will be safe.

It has already gone too far to leave the Police option off the table.

**moonmanflyer** · 06-07-2011, 10:18 AM

My lad took up rugby on the school team and has a rep of tackling anyone no matter how big, now, no one will touch him

**Gareth-71** · 06-07-2011, 10:26 AM

Hi

Thanks for your replies.

I have tried and tried to get Luke to stand up for himself - he won't. It is just not in his gentle nature. Boxing etc won't help. He is not a scrapper at heart, and this other kid is. That means to me that even with kick boxing etc he will still loose. My other son, Ruben (6 yrs) is a bruiser (like his dad lol) and no one ever picks on him because he will flatten them, and they know it.

The main trouble is that Luke does not have much self confidence and things like this just send him back years.

My ONLY motivation for thinking about beating this kid is to get the police involved. Right now they can't do a thing as they say kids have fights all the time and they don't get involved.

I have had a meeting with the head, and genuinely believe that they really care, but they can't watch them every minute of every day...

What to do???

:-(

Gareth

**Si_B** · 06-07-2011, 10:32 AM

Firstly, if you take action directly with the kid or his parents, it will more than likely be your child that will be removed from the school.

Demand to see the Head of the school, insisting that the parents of the other child are present. I know its tempting to take the law into your own hands, but you will cause more damage than good (even though I'm sure you will feel justice has been done).

If the kid has been removed from the school for a few days, this should be an official exclusion which will stay on his report until he leaves school. Again, doesn't help you lad, but this will be something that will follow him around for a few years.

I do sort of agree about the comments regarding fighting back etc, but honestly in school we don't need anymore students thinking the only option to defend your rights it to fight. I see enough kids already who have no ability to reason, and will go straight to violence to resolve even the smallest issue.

Again, this is the responsibility of the school. Make a very big fuss and I'm sure something will get done about it.

**heli** · 06-07-2011, 10:38 AM

At school I was a very quiet person. Coming from the side of being bullied at school. I learnt that fighting back was the way to stop it. I punched holly S*** out of the boy a primary and that bought me a few year of peace and a reputation to go with it. Same thing happen later in high school, again snapped and decked him. It even happened at work! Life lesson, stand up for yourself when you have to otherwise walk way. I suppose this is what you need to tell Luke. Tell him to keep his distance from the other guy but at some point he's going to have to deck him if he keeps at it. Make sure you tell Luke that what ever he does to defend him self you won't punish him.

I also agree with others, the school do have an obligation to resolve the issue. Police might be the way to get them moving. Give them the option, sort it or I'll involve the Police.

**Johnda** · 06-07-2011, 10:40 AM

Gareth what an awful situation, what I can't understad is now your son has receveid actualy bodily harm they can't take no action against the other child, surely that's not right ?

Like others have said I'd be demading another meeting with them to see what course of action they are going to take, threaten them with the police, press tell them you'll take it up with the Eduaction department or who ever it is, no doubt you know this in your mind but you need to get it sorted or your poor lads confidence will get knocked further and fruther.

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