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The survey was probably devised by the same student that when interviewed on the recent protest said -
[I]'Its not fair - 9 grand a year - over 3 years thats like 21 grand' [/I]
He was a second year economics student - there really is no hope for us...
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Increadible... (both economics student and survey, although i guess the survery student assumed that climate was a 'given')
What annoys me about the student riots etc regarding their uni costs is that its optional - its for their own development and if they dont like it then dont go, just get a job instead. After 3/4 years in employment they would be at a similar oportunity and pay scale as a graduate anyway - they just have to actually push themselves and be good at what they choose.
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[quote=Dedcalm;571408]Increadible... (both economics student and survey, although i guess the survery student assumed that climate was a 'given')
What annoys me about the student riots etc regarding their uni costs is that its optional - its for their own development and if they dont like it then dont go, just get a job instead. After 3/4 years in employment they would be at a similar oportunity and pay scale as a graduate anyway - they just have to actually push themselves and be good at what they choose.[/quote]
I come from the era of uni grants so perhaps biased. What gets me is not so much the costs of going to uni but the downvalued rubbish courses that are now university degrees to massage government statistics and make folk think they/we are doing better then reality.
Back in my day there were 'real degrees', polytechnic qualifications and 'apprenticeships'. Now that isn't having a down on non uni degrees.. just keeping things in perspective..there were strange degrees then that shouldn't have been uni degrees.. social studies, drama and the like. By that I mean that there is a difference between purist research type studies, the sciences and arts and the rest. Now the rest often ended up with better, varied jobs, sometimes better pay...managment (hotels, garages), agriculture//horticulture/landscape gardening, cooking etc.What you make out of a qualification is up to you.
It's things like engineering research the 'professions' and pure arts that 'need' the old style uni background. Now we have nurses with university degrees.. and not a clue about how to care for a patient and keep a ward clean or do a simple mental arithmetic sum.. they have a degree but no vocation (and yeah I know there's some brilliant ones about). We have dergees in everything from waste management to astrology.....
The guys that made the good money were the apprentices who had the get up and go to start their own businesses...mechanics, chippies, plumbers....
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