Ebay advice needed.........

[buckers]

Tryin to cover my back here..........!!

Sold some hightech music gear yesterday on Ebay -£120 ish. The winning bidder is from Greece, who I had previously told, I would not ship to Greece, it was a UK only auction, as the auction stated. (I now know you can block overseas bidders, which is what I have now done. Horse, gate and bolt spring to mind here !!)

Mailed him asking why he still bid. No reply.

Made some enqs and found it's not that easy to get out of being committed to selling to him, so I decided to "up" the shipping cost to £60, which is approx what it would cost to get it to him. Invoiced him via Ebay and waited.

Only 2 ways to prevent the sale going ahead......
For me to cancel a transaction, he has to agree to it !!
OR
Me file a NPB (non paying buyer), and get out of it that way, hence the high, but fair postage costs.

He then replies stating he wants it posting to a UK address. (Getting smelly by now!!), but won't give it to me yet !!

He then gives me an address later in the day, and another name, down in Staines. (Getting smellier)

As far as I know, for me to be covered by Paypal protection, the address I send recorded delivery to, must be registered on his paypal account.
Pointed this out to him and asked for paypal account name, and am currently waiting for the next development.....

Am I being over-cautious, paranoid, or just stupid here ?

Any advice?

I really don't want to sell to him, it seems fraught with danger

[sacko]

If you are worried about it, I wouldnt bother personally.

Its only Ebay feedback? is it really worth risking £120.

[inferno]

Your right, only ship to the paypal confirmed add he paid with if he pays.

Otherwise file non paying claim with eBay after 4 days.

[3door4x4]

I've bought stuff from people who only ship to the USA before and had it sent to a friend there and I've collected it from him when I next went over there. I live in Essex but my girlfriend lives in Derbyshire and as I'm here at weekends and sometimes mid week if I am working this way, I get stuff shipped here too. I guess people do that a lot but you're right to be cautious.
At the end of the day if the funds clear then you're home and dry anyway right?
If there is a problem with the funds i.e. he used a stolen credit card / hacked someone elses account then that problem is with Paypal / Ebay, not with you the otherwise unassuming seller. Ebay is obliged to provide a safe haven for selling and buying so as long as you stick to their rules then all is well.

[Andy from Sandy]

Is there a way to contact someone at eBay and get advise?

If you get payment from a verified paypal account would that not be good enough or do you think this guy may have hijacked the account in some way?

I don't think you are being paranoid. There is way to many scammers out there who do it for a living.

[pgkevet]

..unless you know someone near staines who will drop it round for cash...

[higgsy09]

i had a phone on ebay which stated no overseas bidders, whick sold to a guy in Estonia, he paid by paypal straight away, i contacted him telling him im not posting there and cancelled the transaction, which he didnt accept, i ended up getting neg feedback!, if your prepared to post it only do so to the verified address from paypal, maybe contact Ebay customer services?

[Johnda]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I've had a similar problem in the past, but before the auction ended I cancelled the bid (several times) until they got the message, also I had a buyer who never came to collect, so I just put it on a second chance off to the next highest bidder, because I put it on a second chance offer the highest bidder couldn’t leave feedback, this could possibly be an escape route for you, you may lose a little cash buy taking a lower bid but at least you won’t b risking the whole lot.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[buckers]

[quote=3door4x4;541797]
At the end of the day if the funds clear then you're home and dry anyway right?[/quote]
I believe they can claw the funds back from your Paypal account if they deem it necessary.

[quote=Evo Andy;541798]Is there a way to contact someone at eBay and get advise?

If you get payment from a verified paypal account would that not be good enough or do you think this guy may have hijacked the account in some way?[/quote]
I did contact Ebay, and they gave me the 2 alternatives I mentioned. I'm sure his paypal account is verified, as is his address in Greece, but he doesn't want me to ship there, which is where it gets smelly !!

[quote=pgkevet;541801]..unless you know someone near staines who will drop it round for cash...[/quote]
Unfortunately not !

[Spanner]

[quote=3door4x4;541797]
At the end of the day if the funds clear then you're home and dry anyway right?
[/quote]

My mate sold some stuff on ShitBay, the bloke paid by paypal, funds into his acct, posted the stuff off. Only the next day PayPal email him and say don't post as it was paid with a dodgy credit card, they took the money back and he was left minus his goods!!Posted a dodgy part of Leeds, we thought about knocking, but it was proper dodgy!!

Caution my friend!!

[bish]

Hi Phil
I sold my lads rc car 1/8 scale nitro buggy in mint cond boxed and hardly used to someone in sweden two years ago :( paid by paypal charged him a fortune shipping hopeing he would back out but no he paid and i sent it off:) happy days for about a month :confused: i then got notifacation from paypal saying he had lodged a complaint about the condition of the car :confused: paypal took the money back from my account whilst it was decided who was at fault and i was shocked when they said i had missold the car and they would refund his money i then had to refund the inflated postage to get the car back and on its return the tyres were bold the engine had no compression it was completely fooked i sent emails and pictures to paypal and not a single reply :confused::confused: so be carefull phil,i will never ship overseas again if my man was in the uk i would have gone round and sorted it.

[noz]

If he pays with paypal you must post to the stated address on the paypal payment. If you don't and he reports no delivery then paypal asks you for prove of posting if the address doesn't match the address on the payee paypal account invoice then your knacked. He's got your goods and the paypal refund.
You have no payment and no goods SIMPLE!! Don't Do it.

If he's got a so called friend here tell him to send payment to his friends paypal account then friend sends you the paypal payment. That way the address where you send is correct.

[Streetluge Chris]

Hi Phil
tell you dropped it while packing it ask them if they still won't it paint cracks and take couple of pics.

[Tim Procter]

I wouldnt risk it Phil, Its only one negative feedback at worst.:confused:

Better than losing a chunk of money.;)

[Dedcalm]

If you are not happy them as many have said dont send it - refund cash, cancel sale if necessary due to item being damaged/broken.

If sold at auction and you had other bidders with sensible bid then you can make a 2nd chance offer to the next highest or re-list it with all countries you dont want to send to disabled.