Talk about taking the **** (royals)

[Rotorhead]

[url=http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100924/tuk-queen-sought-heating-bills-grant-6323e80.html]Queen 'sought heating bills grant' - Yahoo! News UK[/url]

Anyone else think its high time the institution was ended and they where forced to actually fend for themselves like the rest of us, we have poor old people die every winter because they can't heat their homes and this happens?

Now before anyone trys to say it was an aide, well do you honestly expect us to believe that the queen either didn't know, or ask them to look into it, yeah sure.

[David Drew]

If you compare the Civil List to the amount of foreign revenue generated by the Royal Family the country is a net earner.

But I do appreciate the Royal Family does have a credibility gap right now.

[Rotorhead]

That may be true, but there is no excuse for that, that is really just taking the p*ss, poverty my ass, I wish I was as in as much poverty as they are.

[trillian]

[quote=David Drew;537400]If you compare the Civil List to the amount of foreign revenue generated by the Royal Family the country is a net earner.

But I do appreciate the Royal Family does have a credibility gap right now.[/quote]

I am a bit suspicious of the figures thrown around when they claim the royal family brings in X amount of revenue etc. I'd like to see how this is calculated and where this revenue actually goes (does it somehow go back into the pocket of the taxpayers? Because this would not be the case for tourist spending as an example as that just goes to retailers, hotels, airlines etc and not back into the treasury).

[pgkevet]

[quote=Rotorhead;537398]well do you honestly expect us to believe that the queen either didn't know, or ask them to look into it, yeah sure.[/quote]

Well, yes. There's a lot of staff and if soemone asked for folk to find economies then there's always someone who is going to try getting brownie points irrespective of the chances of getting 'caught'.

I seriously doubt that HRH looks at itemised accounts herself..just the broad overview but not the details.

Whether you consider the Royal Family value for money is entirely different. I'm no Royalist but equally it's time the mass proletariat got off their combines asses and learned some manners, good pronunciation and diction and a vocabularly with more than single syllable words in it.

There are also huge tracts of this globe where the Royal family still has followers and where Great Britian retains credibility and we have beneficiary trade agreements through that.

Let's face it the commoners in government haven't done a very good job either..a bit of beheading might be a useful stick behind any carrot!

[scallybert]

[quote=trillian;537430][...] Because this would not be the case for tourist spending as an example as that just goes to retailers, hotels, airlines etc and not back into the treasury).[/quote]
There's VAT on all of that, then everyone involvd is taxed, etc.

Plus those busineses provide jobs. We like jobs...

[jwatts007]

Like em or not, she is the Queen of England, any attack on her is an attack against this country, and the oath she took at her coronation, Link [URL="http://www.royal.gov.uk/ImagesandBroadcasts/Historic%20speeches%20and%20broadcasts/CoronationOath2June1953.aspx"]Coronation Oath, 2nd June 1953[/URL] Take a good look at the people who are stirring this crap up, and take a look at their history, you will find they have no allegiance to this country whatsoever, one thing she has done is constantly refuse too repeal a law made by a past King, and rightfully so, so what do they do now, slowly poison the public's mind against them, do you honestly think the Queen, one of the richest people in the world cannot afford her heating bills, no it is the leeches, who made this up, who wants what what this country has, or destroy it. God Save The Queen..

[David Drew]

Good reply JWatts

The tourism industry, plus any trade generated, pays VAT, employs people (who pay taxes) and the money is all recycled into the economy - not directly into the treasury agreed, but it all gets back in one way or another.

Or we could have a Replublic with President Blair in charge:ack2: :ack2:God Help Us & will the last person out of the country please switch off the lights.

IMHO HM The Queen has done this country sterling service and she deserves a medal:)...maybe she could give herself an OBE?

Shame some of the other Royal don't match up.

[jwatts007]

[quote=David Drew;537451]Good reply JWatts

The tourism industry, plus any trade generated, pays VAT, employs people (who pay taxes) and the money is all recycled into the economy - not directly into the treasury agreed, but it all gets back in one way or another.

Or we could have a Replublic with President Blair in charge:ack2: :ack2:God Help Us & will the last person out of the country please switch off the lights.

IMHO HM The Queen has done this country sterling service and she deserves a medal:)...maybe she could give herself an OBE?

Shame some of the other Royal don't match up.[/quote] It matters not who the individual is sitting on the throne, it is what they stand for, words have meanings, every politician, police officer, all those in the sergeants mess, they all take an oath to the Queen, therefore her oath, to the country and commonwealth, to us, and before God, this is so important, no wonder they wish too destroy it.

[Rotorhead]

[quote=jwatts007;537446]...no it is the leeches, who made this up, who wants what what this country has, or destroy it. God Save The Queen..[/quote]

You know its been made up?

How?

[trillian]

[quote=scallybert;537442]There's VAT on all of that, then everyone involvd is taxed, etc.

Plus those busineses provide jobs. We like jobs...[/quote]

I should have added, it is unproven there is actually any extra tourism, I rather doubt it makes much difference in people's motivation to visit the UK.

[jwatts007]

[quote=Rotorhead;537458]You know its been made up?

How?[/quote] What better way to win hearts and minds that owning your own newspaper, news organization, tv company, film company, take a look, this is a perfect example of how they work. this forum is not the place to discuss this subject really. but ask yourself this question, who benefits from these allegations, and what are there motives.

[Andy from Sandy]

[quote]I wish I was as in as much poverty as they are.[/quote]

The Royal Family may have assets that appear to make them look wealthy but are they allowed to convert this to cash? Have you seen their bank accounts and can verify their incomings and outgoings?

Just because people live in big houses doesn't make them rich.

[Rotorhead]

[quote=jwatts007;537464]What better way to win hearts and minds that owning your own newspaper, news organization, tv company, film company, take a look, this is a perfect example of how they work. this forum is not the place to discuss this subject really. but ask yourself this question, who benefits from these allegations, and what are there motives.[/quote]

Thats not an answer.

In other words you want to believe they have made it up, but you dont know that, so you can't say that they have as if you knew it as a fact.

This is in the 'Off the topic' section, and this is well, off topic, and going by the description of this section of the site it seems like its in the right place.

[Rotorhead]

[quote=Evo Andy;537468]The Royal Family may have assets that appear to make them look wealthy but are they allowed to convert this to cash? Have you seen their bank accounts and can verify their incomings and outgoings?

Just because people live in big houses doesn't make them rich.[/quote]

I'm willing to bet that for some of them their personal wealth is into the tens if not more of millions, even if its only in the tens of millions its more than enough to pay the gas company ;)