I'm gonna get shot down for this...

[Leebert]

...but here goes...

Please forgive me - it is Christmas though :D

I know it's not a heli but I'm thinking of getting a Zagi or similar (EP not a slope one). As some of you guys have one or come from a plank background what is a good one to go for?

Thanks Guys

[Thomas]

Get a Swift from Skyline, I'll give you the spec of mine as it goes very well, just don't skimp on the motor and use FP packs.

[Leebert]

Thanks Thomas
Can you PM me or post the specs please?

[Ade_Law]

here is something very similar to the swift.

[URL]http://media.putfile.com/mini-tornado[/URL]

swift is a little faster but other than that the same.

the MS300/20 (also known as Axi 2208/20 is a great motor for these, run on 3s with a 6x4 prop.

one note, there are 2 versions of the 2208, make sure you get the 20 turn version with 1880kv not the 24(i think) which is down around 1200kv

Ade

[Thomas]

Mine is a bit over the top as I bought a motor that would go on a bigger model one day, but it goes well and slow if needed.

Motor - AXI 2217/09D (2208/20 is plenty good enough)
APC 6x4e prop on radial mount for above
Battery - FP 3S 1200 (FP cos no poing trashing expensive packs;))
ESC - 15 or 20 amp depending on motor, doubt mine pulls more than 15 (using hacker X20)
Servos - a pair of HS65mg, can go cheaper but I wouldn't go less than a HS56 though,broken quite a few cheap ones in them,
RX - Schulze Alpha, bought from a jolly good chap somewhere in Surrey.

Skyline do an MS motor/esc combo that I had in my last one that was excellent in my last one.

You'll also need a big roll of glass tape, some thick CA glue and the spray to go with it.

[Smoothound]

There are plenty about from 14" up to 6' plus of both EP and Slope flavours, as Thomas says the Swift is one although I've yet to see one.

Some other names to search for are in no particular order are:

Pocket Combat Wing(PCW)
Unicorn
Zagi
Gryphon
Overlord
Bird Of Prey or MiniBOP

My personal favourite is the Gryphon but it's more expensive than some of the others if you are just looking for a cheap crasher...

[jamiem]

im after a really cheap fw setup for learning on and having a bit of a play about with when the heli's are down. what should i look for?

[Thomas]

The two I have had are the Mini Tornado from
[url]http://www.south-coast-sailplanes.com/pages/foamies.asp#minitornado[/url]
and the MS swift from
[url]https://www.skylinemodels.co.uk/acatalog/Aircraft_Kits.html[/url]

Both very good, Tornado is a bit bigger so a little easier to fly, but only slightly - the Swift is more fun and you'll get a complete set up from Skyline.

They make an excellent training aid, I bought one when I had just started out and it helped me loads as I had not flown anything before, apart from full size.

[3dbasher]

aaaaaaaaaaah a plank:D i'm not completely airplank free though i've got a shocky... i've never crashed so much:rolleyes:

[Leebert]

Thanks Guys.

Just had a look at the Swift on Skylines website - they look fantastic!

Thomas: was the swift flying the the recent video you posted with your dog?

Will the Futaba T7CP do the necessary mixing for the elevons?

[Ade_Law]

yes, it was that model in the video,

yes the 7c will do the mixing, its called elevon or delta mixing.

Ade

[Leebert]

Thanks Ade :)

[Leebert]

It seems that Skyline aren't doing the swift anymore but I can get a zagi with a brushed motor (480 I think) for £45 and a speed controller for £13. I already have a PPM rx, some Futaba 148 or 3001 servos and a couple of 3s LiPos so it seems like quite a cheap way to start flying. As I progress, I'm thinking I could upgrade to a brushless setup for around £90 - £100.

What do you guys think? Go for it as it is for just under £60 or get the brushless upgrades straight away and spend around £160?

[Thomas]

Lee, have you spoken to Skyline? I only got mine a couple of weeks ago.

Go brushless with the motor I have and put it on a Mini Tornado from S/coast sail planes if you can't get a Swift.

If you find yourself over this way or Poling over the next week or so give us a shout and you can have a fly in mine.

[Leebert]

[quote=Thomas;26797]Lee, have you spoken to Skyline? I only got mine a couple of weeks ago.
Go brushless with the motor I have and put it on a Mini Tornado from S/coast sail planes if you can't get a Swift.
If you find yourself over this way or Poling over the next week or so give us a shout and you can have a fly in mine.[/quote]

Yes, I gave them a call yesterday and they had none in and they may not get any more.
Is there anything specifically wrong with a Zagi? It's just that I have practically all the parts needed to get me in the air so it'll be quite cheap.

I am interested in the Mini Tornado though as your not the only person to recommend them. The only trouble is, I would have to buy more parts to get me going and it all adds up.

If the Mini Tornado is that much better than the Zagi at flying (and crashing!) then I will go for one of them though.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks for the offer Thomas, I would like to have a go on one. Where abouts is Poling?

Thanks.