Gordon Brown the music killer

[Richard H]

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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]I am not one for these online petition things but this really takes the piss. Well done Gordon Brown!!!![/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Gordon Brown’s government are planning to bring in a restriction on the decibel level of all new and updated club / bar / pub(lic) sound systems, which will limit the maximum decibel level to 93db. To give you some idea of what this sounds like, it is basically slightly louder than the sound of a bus going 50mph when you are inside it. Or put another way, slightly less than the level of sound you would hear if you were stood by a train line as a train passes by. Some people, my mum for instance, would say that it should be lower than that. But as so many forms of music rely upon the impact and feeling of the vibration of the music as much as the sound, I think most music-loving people would agree that there is a time and place for loud music. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]The current legal maximum is 112db. So the new restriction would be a reduction of 19db. Anyone who has messed around with music software will know how much of a huge difference that is. So many forms of music are in danger of being completely wiped out by this ridiculous proposition. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]My first thought was: “Well most clubs will just ignore the limit”. Unfortunately that’s not true. The restriction will be in the form of a physical “Limiter” being placed in the amplifier system of the venue. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]This is not a suggestion or idle threat from the government. This is [I][I]actually[/I][/I] going ahead. Early indications are that this bill is going to be ratified in it’s current form with no official debate or referendum. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]The only hope of music-loving people in Britain is to sign this online petition via the link below (or pay a visit to number 10 personally). To sign the petition you need to register with your email address and click the link in your email to activate your account. Then your objection will be added to the thousands that have already voiced their opinion. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma][URL="http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/"][U][COLOR=#800080]http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseContr ol/[/COLOR][/U][/URL][/FONT]</SPAN>[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Don’t let the government tell you what you can or can’t do. Our glorious leaders have already put us in a situation where alcohol prices are massively inflated, our drug policy is going the way of the Americans, people can no longer smoke in [I][I]any[/I][/I] public building. If this decibel level is introduced where will it end? Before long the entire pub and club culture in [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Britain[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial] will be laid to waste by a despotic and irresponsible parliament and the only loud music you will hear will be the looped CD of “Party Hits” at your hotel when you’re on holiday somewhere in the rest of the world. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Britain[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial] has one of the most vibrant and creative music scenes in the world. Do NOT let Gordon Brown kill it! [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[B][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]ps. Please forward this to anyone you think will be interested.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B]
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[cjcj1949]

About 79 in fact.

[David Drew]

TBH I think club & pub music is far too loud.

Hate clubs for that reason (and the overpriced beer:()

It is a fact that exposure to loud music impairs hearing so maybe ok for occassional club-goers, but what about the staff.

Same thing as smoking I guess.

I am not a kill-joy, but this sounds like good sense to me.

Sorry

David

[cjcj1949]

Bringing down the tone.

[quote=David Drew;208808]TBH I think club & pub music is far too loud.

Hate clubs for that reason (and the overpriced beer:()

It is a fact that exposure to loud music impairs hearing so maybe ok for occassional club-goers, but what about the staff.

Same thing as smoking I guess.

I am not a kill-joy, but this [U][B]sounds[/B][/U] like good sense to me.

Sorry

David[/quote]

Its going to be one of those threads.

[David Drew]

Perhaps everyone could have earpieces like musicains fed from the DJ and then they can have the music as loud as their hearts' desire??

But hearing aids & tests & treatments should NOT be on the NHS.

David

[boz]

It will kill live music full stop being a drummer all my life i am not happy .
If you go to a pub thats has live music on then thats your fault

[400blade]

if you dont like the loud music its simple you just dont go in there as you know what its like before you step foot inside the place i think the goverment needs a re think as theres more pressing matters that need dealing with before loud music

[David Drew]

But it's exactly like the smoking ban. Protects staff mainly. Yes I can avoid, but getting other jobs is not that easy.

All things in moderation & sometimes the volume isn't moderate

[chugga-bug]

[quote]But it's exactly like the smoking ban. Protects staff mainly. Yes I can avoid, but getting other jobs is not that easy.

All things in moderation & sometimes the volume isn't moderate [/quote]

Ever heard of ear plugs David?

If you don't like it stay away!!
Why would anybody who doesn't like loud music get a job in a club/live venue! :confused: If you were a vegitarian would you work in a butchers??

This is just another in the long line of infringements to our freedom. :cuss:
Where does it end?? Are home/car sound systems next?? Suppose we better ban motor racing too while we're at it??

Makes me f***ing sick!!!!! :banghead::banghead:

[easypickingsere]

[B]Are we in a democratic country any more? seems more and more like a dictator is running what was once GREAT Britain![/B]

[David Drew]

[quote=chugga-bug;209124]Ever heard of ear plugs David?

I :confused: If you were a vegitarian would you work in a butchers??

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Yep, wear them all the time on the bike.

Only if there were no meat there:) My wife is vegetarian, but she still cooks meat for the rest of us.

But this is the main reason why I hate clubs & noisy pubs....so I do avoid them and I'll take my business elsewhere.

David

[Smoothound]

I'm not fussed either way to be honest. I like a good loud concert but some pubs and clubs just take the piss with their noise levels but luckily for me I avoid as I won't listen to the sort of stuff they use as an excuse for music these days ;) Far too many completely talentless "DJ's" being paid far too much for just shredding eardrums with complete garbage and equally talentless noise ;)

As an aside, ignoring the main point, it just sounds like more Euro/PC/Hand Holding crap to be totally honest...

You voted the Reds in, You got Euro Laws, You Vote them out this summer when Gordy Boy realises he's on a sinking ship...I just wonder if any other party really want to be lumbered with what all these years of Euro, sorry, Labour Rule have left us with :D

[phockzie]

How many DB's does my Raptor 50 produce, is that on the list of things to be silenced?

[Smoothound]

If we stay in the EU much longer I reckon it won't be long ;)

[David Drew]

Despite all my comments above, I do believe this Gov have spent too much time farting around with petty stuff.
For example, when the smoking ban came in I had to put a No Smoking sign on clear display in my company car, or face a huge fine.

Good to know they are concentrating on the important issues - like banking regulation and the city spivs. I don't think:(