can you fly inverted in space?

[FuturaSE]

Im thinking about THE ENTERPRISE from CAPTAIN KIRK feels like he is a great pilot im wondering are they always flying upright or also inverted ? is there inverted in space?

somehow its strange watching kirk he is always sitting upright when he is behind the sticks you never see them flying upside down hanging in his chair

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let me know your opinion about if there is inverted in space

[RcRotaryMadness]

How do you manage to come up with these questions? :hopelessness:

& no there is no "inverted" in space since there is no right-way up =P

[Dave Rand]

can you fly inverted in space?

Would have thought that inside the enterprise it's generated gravity would mean that yes you could fly a 130x round the deck lol, outside the ship erm No :(

[RcRotaryMadness]

For a heli to fly all it needs is an atmosphere dense enough to overcome the gravity pulling it down... In space there is no gravity (great) but also theres no air (not great).

On the flight deck apparently conditions are similar to earths so indeed a little fun with a 130x would be fine.

Someone booking a slot on Virgins space plane or something?

[pgkevet]

[QUOTE=FuturaSE;1028981]Im thinking about THE ENTERPRISE from CAPTAIN KIRK feels like he is a great pilot im wondering are they always flying upright or also inverted ? is there inverted in space?

somehow its strange watching kirk he is always sitting upright when he is behind the sticks you never see them flying upside down hanging in his chair

let me know your opinion about if there is inverted in space[/QUOTE]

You're so wrong! All starfleet officers had some pilot training but the pilot is the helm officer.. Sulu usually in Kirk's day.
Enterprise had artificial gravity and must have had inertial dampening too.
Upside down is a relative term rather than an absolute.
In terms if the enterprise bridge then upside down will be relative to it's local gravity. In terms of planetary proximity then upside will be relative to that planets gravity well.. expand that to a solar systems plane of ecliptic when the upside will be away from the centre (above or below just as aussies aren't really upsde down here)..expand further for the plane of any galaxy and indeed in intergalactic space the plane of the universe.

Actually trying to fly an r/c heli in the vacuum of deep space wasn't in your question but is interesting to speculate about. Without any gasses to work against the rotors there is no way for the tail to prevent the body of the heli spinning so even with the softest start you have to have an uncontrolled model. Partisulalrly with a scoprion motor it's lubes are going to dissipate fast in a near vacuum and with only radiation as a way of losing heat it's going to cook and distort and turn into a useless blob very fast..along with the domino effect of cooking the esc and puffing the lipos which will immediately blow in the vacuum as they puff... but at least no flames. If the rotors are still free-wheeling at that point then any pitch will allow the model to move out of the lipo fog. Heli will then coast indefinately until grabbed by the gravity well of any large enough object.

[PorscheBoy]

[QUOTE=pgkevet;1029029]You're so wrong! All starfleet officers had some pilot training but the pilot is the helm officer.. Sulu usually in Kirk's day.
Enterprise had artificial gravity and must have had inertial dampening too.
Upside down is a relative term rather than an absolute.
In terms if the enterprise bridge then upside down will be relative to it's local gravity. In terms of planetary proximity then upside will be relative to that planets gravity well.. expand that to a solar systems plane of ecliptic when the upside will be away from the centre (above or below just as aussies aren't really upsde down here)..expand further for the plane of any galaxy and indeed in intergalactic space the plane of the universe.

Actually trying to fly an r/c heli in the vacuum of deep space wasn't in your question but is interesting to speculate about. Without any gasses to work against the rotors there is no way for the tail to prevent the body of the heli spinning so even with the softest start you have to have an uncontrolled model. Partisulalrly with a scoprion motor it's lubes are going to dissipate fast in a near vacuum and with only radiation as a way of losing heat it's going to cook and distort and turn into a useless blob very fast..along with the domino effect of cooking the esc and puffing the lipos which will immediately blow in the vacuum as they puff... but at least no flames. If the rotors are still free-wheeling at that point then any pitch will allow the model to move out of the lipo fog. Heli will then coast indefinately until grabbed by the gravity well of any large enough object.[/QUOTE]

Waaayyy to much free time on your hands LOL

[debrooker]

no, and it cracks me up when you see spaceships banking

[Mark_T]

Banking can still make sense based on where the thrusters are located and incomplete inertial damping.

Large fireball explosions in space make rather less sense though :)

[RcRotaryMadness]

The enterprise could be flying backwards or sideways for all space cares! Just wouldn't look cool though would it lol.

[Nitro Head]

Inverted is possible apparently:single_eye:

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I knew that was a wig, not a hair out of place!

[Rotorhead]

With an alcubierre drive (the real life currently theoretical counterpart of star trek's warp drive) there would be no need at all for the ficticious 'inertial dampeners', since the ship would not be moving or accelerating relative to the space it occupies there would be no change in momentum.

[Rotorhead]

[QUOTE=Mark_T;1029043]Large fireball explosions in space make rather less sense though :)[/QUOTE]

Tell that to the sun :)

Technicially it's in a constant state of explosion, only gravity keeps it in check.

[pgkevet]

[QUOTE=Rotorhead;1029159]With an alcubierre drive (the real life currently theoretical counterpart of star trek's warp drive) there would be no need at all for the ficticious 'inertial dampeners', since the ship would not be moving or accelerating relative to the space it occupies there would be no change in momentum.[/QUOTE]

I think one can assume that wrping space near a planetary system would be frowned upon so there would still be need for a sublight system and indeed most in-system space warefare is likely to be thus conducted (unless you just check asteroids at the home world). E E Smith's Bergenholm removed inertia and allowed for FTL speeds too. If the Higgs filed can be manipulated to reduce or remove mass and better manipulate it then such dampening ought to be possible.

Don't ya just love sci-fi theory!!