Governor. V bar vs jive

[nitros]

I like to know from who tested both which one they prefer and why?


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[Ross Northcott]

never tried the vbar gov but the Kontroniks is very good, and is the reason why i have never tried the vbar one, why would i, it works perfectly.

[tonystevens]

Dont think the gov is up to much on the vbar for electric helis. Works great though on nitro so ive heard.
Kontronics gov has been bob-on on my logo.

[mattie-lodge]

I'm running the Vbar gov on my Xxtreme coupled with the YGE 160.

Actually its pretty good. Fairly simple to setup and the best bit is it has a bail out function

I'm going to buy a phase sensor and run my Logo 600 with it soon. Then I will be able to tell back to back how good it really is.

So far though I'm pretty impressed

[KnifeEdge]

I did try vbar gov with the Helijive but the Helijive blew up.

[tonystevens]

Whats a 'phase sensor' Mattie?

[nitros]

I did try vbar gov with the Helijive but the Helijive blew up.

What the jive pop?


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[KnifeEdge]

Yes, it blew up. I'm not 100% convinced with the vbar/Helijive combo.

[mattie-lodge]

Whats a 'phase sensor' Mattie?

Hi Tony,

A phase sensor is a device that picks off one phase of the motor wiring and feeds the information back to the Vbar gov telling it how fast the motor is going. Therefore it can accurately control motor speed.

Sensors, ESC and Motor | VStabi

On the YGE 160 you use the supplied adapter lead and plug it straight into the second port on the ESC. I assume that there is a sensor built into that ESC.

The only thing I have to investigate is if the Kontronic has one built in. If so there would be no need to buy an additional sensor.

[Mark_T]

Yes, it blew up. I'm not 100% convinced with the vbar/Helijive combo.

That issue was fixed with an update to the Jive firmware though wasn't it?

Still don't think I'd bother using the VBar Gov with a HeliJive though.

[mattie-lodge]

Helijive has the bailout function, so I probably wouldn't either

[LaurenceGough]

One advantage of the V-Bar gov is that it knows pitch and cyclic before the headspeed drop happens, that way it can precompensate.

I haven't yet used the V-Bar gov mind you.

[Tim Procter]

I haven't yet used the V-Bar gov mind you.

I have on my Xxtreme and it works excellent, plus as Mattie says the bailout feature is great.

[Jamin_00]

The difference is the vbar is proactive and the jive is reactive. The jive is superb and copes well with the hardest of demands put on it whereas the vbar knows the inputs so can preempt what's going to happen.

Technically the vbar should be better but I think Imho that unless your flying hard HARDEST 3D you won't tell a difference between the 2 as the jive is that good.

I'm in the process of changing my xxtreme from the vbar gov to the inbuilt YGE with the prog card as I want to try that too

[dav20043]

The difference is the vbar is proactive and the jive is reactive. The jive is superb and copes well with the hardest of demands put on it whereas the vbar knows the inputs so can preempt what's going to happen.

Technically the vbar should be better but I think Imho that unless your flying hard HARDEST 3D you won't tell a difference between the 2 as the jive is that good.

I'm in the process of changing my xxtreme from the vbar gov to the inbuilt YGE with the prog card as I want to try that too

I can't see how any external governor will be better than the internal one as the vbar still has to rely on the esc interpreting its signal to control the motor so if the esc bad then how can the vbar compensate .Its not a throttle servo