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    The mark up on spares.

    For example, I have an OS50 SXH, that needs a new piston, thats all it needs.

    So I thought ok, I'll have a look at the prices, then I thought I wonder what the mark up is compared to buying a new engine?

    Comparing the Hyper, as the carb and the head where not listed anymore.

    So I just went through a price list of the parts, and it came out to about £490 for the complete engine if bought as parts, compared to a price of £118 for a new engine

    Thats a 315% mark up on top of the price and on top of whatever mark up they already had, and they didnt have to pay someone to put it together either.

    If this is happening with engine spares, then its bound to be happening with everything else.

    Obviously for just a piston its cheaper to get the spare in this case.

    But does anyone else think that we are getting royally screwed over on the pricing of spares?
    Last edited by Rotorhead; 02-10-2007, 09:01 PM.
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  • #2
    i agree. i think its crazy! especially on the cheap heli's a little bit of cheap molded plastick and your paying £5+!!!

    crazy times!
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    • #3
      Yup.

      I recently over-cooked my YS50. The liner, piston and ring came to £35 from a UK supplier. The same 3 parts for the OS Hyper 50 are £75.

      It's obscene.
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      • #4
        Dont buy from the UK buy from Jason at Keimod similar price to the YS from him.
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        • #5
          I know they have to make their money somewhere, and could accept an extra 50% on parts, but 315% on top, come on.

          All this, you cant make money in the R/C industry we keep hearing from the supplyers and model shops, in defence of the prices is complete bunk, and this just proves it.
          Last edited by Rotorhead; 02-10-2007, 09:03 PM.
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          • #6
            The cost is justified by having to have a small item on the shelf that may not sell then added are the carrying costs for individual items ect but yes its not good but its the same with every single thing, the sum of its parts far out way the cost of the whole but 300% is to much, has any one ever bothered to add up say a trex 600 on ordering parts individually? I'd love to know but can't be arsed to do it lol.

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            • #7
              It's the same on big engines unfortunately. It was cheaper for us to buy a whole Mitsubishi V16 2500hp for £125000 than a crankshaft and then fit it - robbing bas****s. But if you buy the whole one at least you get to keep all the other used bits as spares .
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chipbury View Post
                It's the same on big engines unfortunately. It was cheaper for us to buy a whole Mitsubishi V16 2500hp for £125000 than a crankshaft and then fit it - robbing bas****s. But if you buy the whole one at least you get to keep all the other used bits as spares .
                That's some heli you got there boy!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Manager View Post
                  That's some heli you got there boy!
                  I wouldn't trust a Mitsubishi V16 in a heli the pistons keep coming out the sides of ours . Mind you i have a nice piston door stop for the garage door now.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rotorhead View Post
                    The mark up on spares.

                    For example, I have an OS50 SXH, that needs a new piston, thats all it needs.

                    So I thought ok, I'll have a look at the prices, then I thought I wonder what the mark up is compared to buying a new engine?

                    Comparing the Hyper, as the carb and the head where not listed anymore.

                    So I just went through a price list of the parts, and it came out to about £490 for the complete engine if bought as parts, compared to a price of £118 for a new engine

                    Thats a 315% mark up on top of the price and on top of whatever mark up they already had, and they didnt have to pay someone to put it together either.

                    If this is happening with engine spares, then its bound to be happening with everything else.

                    Obviously for just a piston its cheaper to get the spare in this case.

                    But does anyone else think that we are getting royally screwed over on the pricing of spares?

                    I've said it before and I'll say it again.
                    Jewelery (watches etc.) 3-400% mark up
                    Furniture 3-500% mark up
                    etc.

                    It's definately the case where the models themselves are incidental to the money to be made on mods and spares. It wouldn't be the first product to be sold where the actual main item was subsidised so the money could be made further down the line *cough* xbox *cough*
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bubblefish777 View Post
                      I've said it before and I'll say it again.
                      Jewelery (watches etc.) 3-400% mark up
                      Furniture 3-500% mark up
                      etc.

                      It's definately the case where the models themselves are incidental to the money to be made on mods and spares. It wouldn't be the first product to be sold where the actual main item was subsidised so the money could be made further down the line *cough* xbox *cough*
                      Printer cartridges spring to mind here.
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                      • #12
                        You need to bear in mind that if Ripmax buy in say 1000 OS engines in one go, that they will get a much better discount, which makes it much cheaper for us to buy them.
                        They wont be buying spares in anywhere near such quantities, so they aren`t going to get much of a discount, thats why spares are so expensive.

                        Admittedly, 3-400% mark up seems a bit much.
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                        • #13
                          Sounds like the BMW thread again...............
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                          • #14
                            As far as I know, the licencing trade (i.e. pubs) typically run at about 200% markup.

                            i.e. they pay (incuding their overheads) about half what you pay at the till for a pint.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by flatspins View Post
                              You need to bear in mind that if Ripmax buy in say 1000 OS engines in one go, that they will get a much better discount, which makes it much cheaper for us to buy them.
                              You're assuming that they tell the customer, in most cases they wouldnt pass the savings on at all but just rake more in.

                              They wont be buying spares in anywhere near such quantities, so they aren`t going to get much of a discount, thats why spares are so expensive.
                              But the thing is that they dont have to buy in spares at all, many LHSs buy in kits or items that they order lots of spares on, and split the kits up, and sell the parts without the packaging.

                              Admittedly, 3-400% mark up seems a bit much.
                              Thats the thing, considering they arnt having to pay someone to sit there putting engines/whatever together, they are saving money on top of the excessive mark up.
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