Scale models cost a bomb so why....

[Ade_Law]

antis your defo the minority. there is a relatively local club that come to some of the school fete type shows. its scary the gear they are running with very old nicads 3001 if your lucky ancient g153 mechanical gyros.

some people seem to get enjoyment from spending the least amount possible. whilst a lot of us have a finite budget we spend money on stuff that needs it. A lot of these guys get a thrill from spending the least possible.

another major generaliseation brought to you by....

me :-)

Ade

[Jamez]

Scale flying is much more pleasing on the eye than 3d ever will be, as much as 3d has the 'woooooow my god it can't do that.......can it' I would rather see and fly with long sweeping turns, flared stops, and all the things that i love about watching real heli's fly, as that's what interest's me. F3C flying is much more my cup of tea, and is under rated and under covered in places like this, and at most local clubs. But in this hobbie its each to his own, and what ever turns them on, if thats getting a heli to fly with cheap gear cause they can, good luck to em. You lot, your just to judgemental, enjoy what you do, and let others enjoy what they do.

[Fixxxer]

Nicely put james. If I was getting another scale model I would go for something really rare that your not likely to see which means it would have to be a scratch built one and there in lies the cost, you pay for the R & D just as much as the materials. I have an airwolf of which there are many now and that is why it needs a custom spray job, it's factory silver/grey at the mo. I don't see the point of leaving it black and white just to look like every other one out there.

[brodjack]

Again nicely put Jamez.
I actually find it harder to fly a 15LB heli 6' off the deck at walking pace round the field. Than throwing a lightweight p&boom heli around.
I wonder how many of us could genuinely fly slow scale for 10 mins.All orientations?
I like both 3D and scale.Just cant stop spending.
AND my scale stuff dosnt have cheap electronics in 'em.

[antsis]

Jamiem. I'm in Maidstone. I fly at the MMFC field in Linton and also out at Barton's Point in Sheerness.

Ade. I know what you mean. I've seen some models fitted with 148's that have massive play in the bushes and the owner's wondering why he can't get it to hover properly. Unfortunately, I also have a finite budget, which means I have to sell one model to fund the next. As I've said before, it's not worth scrimping on the electronics regardless of it being a scale model or P&B.

[Ade_Law]

you guys make it sound like 3d is about throwing the sticks into the corners and hoping for the best.

any good 3d pilot could fly a scale flight give a little practise to get tuned into the model. remember being able to fly acurately in all orientations is what 3d is.

i have flown a a couple of larger models both turbines and yes they are heavy but they are stable too. only difference is allowing a bit more space to slow the thing down nicely.

for me the skill in scale is in the detail anybody can buy a prepainted body and throw it on a model. its the rivets, weathering aerials etc that do it. its not my thing but i understand the pleasure people get from it.

Ade

[Toby Heli]

you guys make it sound like 3d is about throwing the sticks into the corners and hoping for the best.

any good 3d pilot could fly a scale flight give a little practise to get tuned into the model. remember being able to fly acurately in all orientations is what 3d is.

i have flown a a couple of larger models both turbines and yes they are heavy but they are stable too. only difference is allowing a bit more space to slow the thing down nicely.

for me the skill in scale is in the detail anybody can buy a prepainted body and throw it on a model. its the rivets, weathering aerials etc that do it. its not my thing but i understand the pleasure people get from it.

Ade

Yep, I thought you just pushed the stick around a lot and hoped for the best.

This may be going off topic but I think that 3d is performed a little too fast to see how good the pilot is and how hard the copter is working, I think it could draw more crowds if you flew in a scale way (still with pod and boom or scale) and performed a 3D "stunt" returned to scale then did another.

That way the heli would fly like a real heli and demonstrate the skill.

Often 3d videos look a bit like a heli with a serious interfierance problem and many people I have shown videos too said the same without prompting.

Tick Tocks are easy to see and look impressive but 5 tricks rolling from one to next is just too much. IMO

[Jamez]

you guys make it sound like 3d is about throwing the sticks into the corners and hoping for the best.

any good 3d pilot could fly a scale flight give a little practise to get tuned into the model. remember being able to fly acurately in all orientations is what 3d is.

i have flown a a couple of larger models both turbines and yes they are heavy but they are stable too. only difference is allowing a bit more space to slow the thing down nicely.

for me the skill in scale is in the detail anybody can buy a prepainted body and throw it on a model. its the rivets, weathering aerials etc that do it. its not my thing but i understand the pleasure people get from it.

Ade

Thats not what i ment at all, I personaly don't think 3d is the be all and end all of heli flying like some people do, not digging or snipping at anybody, Its just i know what i like, and how i like to fly, I love watching Edders with his manic high speed style, but to my eye, to see Colin fly with the smooth prescision which he does is just what I enjoy more. We all do it for different things. And yes scale is not about chucking a fuse on it and saying look at this, I do agree ( ) there for a change....

[Ade_Law]

theres that precise word again...

well flown 3d *IS* precise

Ade

[Jamez]

righty ho then....I have nothing more to say on the subject

[ChrisB]

Although i enjoy watching and doing a bit of scale type flying my heart is personally into 3d and i can assure everyone that its very difficult to do nicely

Many fliers can stick bang at height as if they were on a sim but lower level,precise and controlled 3d flying is a damn site harder than flying a slow level circuit with a 222 or something

[Disc]

Hey i'm finding it bloody hard to the Top Hat right now...

but i prefer smooth 3D to the stick banging you see about but it also comes down to personel style as well in the end.

we all like diffrent things.

I always said I'd be happy if I can do everything I can do with a Plane with a helicopter... Now thats changed I want to do more....

[Biggles]

Hey i'm finding it bloody hard to the Top Hat right now...

but i prefer smooth 3D to the stick banging you see about but it also comes down to personel style as well in the end.

we all like diffrent things.

I always said I'd be happy if I can do everything I can do with a Plane with a helicopter... Now thats changed I want to do more....

Now I know you can't do everything that you do with a plane......Coz I'm sure as hell aint seen you flick start your heli yet!!!!!! LMAO

[Disc]

Now I know you can't do everything that you do with a plane......Coz I'm sure as hell aint seen you flick start your heli yet!!!!!! LMAO

LOL

[Rick Rotorhead]

A few real helis have hit the headlines over the last few months with some terrible crashes - so I guess that means I'm flying scale then

I'm still trying to get the hang of properly executed turns! But my continuing glitch problems do occasionally give my little 450 an interesting waggle in flight, which is the closest I'm gonna get to 3D for some time