Scale models cost a bomb so why....

[Disc]

Guys,

What is with Scale builders and the electronics they use in these machines...

I keep seeing 50 and 60 scale machines that look stunning and fantastic and then the price is like HOW Much!

You then look at the specs of the electronics 1000ma battery 3001 or 148 or jr 591's servo's on 60 machines. Pizeo gyros or GWS gyros. You'd expect a basic digital servo's or half decent ones a 401 and 9254 really wouldn't you?

does anyone know why they spend a small fortune on these stunning bits of kit then there brains go on Holiday and they fit crap stuff in them?

I am going to either get another scale machine or scale the Voyager 50 at some point. probably after I have done my 'B' with it.

But why do they skimp on the important stuff ???

[jamiem]

maybe because a lot of them are hangar queens? or maybe its because the people that build them care more how they look then how they fly. The only scale id be interested in would be a chinook

[Disc]

maybe because a lot of them are hangar queens? or maybe its because the people that build them care more how they look then how they fly. The only scale id be interested in would be a chinook

Yea but if your going to fly it wouldn't you like to know its gonna hold together and nothings going well Give on it....


Theres a Chinock on BMFA website right now.....

[Disc]

although this just caught my eye....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vario-EC-135-S...QQcmdZViewItem

looks stunning!

[jamiem]

Yea but if your going to fly it wouldn't you like to know its gonna hold together and nothings going well Give on it....


Theres a Chinock on BMFA website right now.....

without a doubt! the trouble is that the scale body's and kits tend to cost quite a lot, therefore i guess to keep the total build costs down (especially when buying a complete "radio set") that the bare minimum that will work is bought. Then when it comes to selling, it is sold on what it looks like, not what it flys like.

That chinook is cool, but just too small and unstable!

[bladetrasher]

My experience is that most folks that go the scale route do tend to use the better quality radio gear regardless of make but when it comes time to sell they swap it out and replace it with cheaper gear

[Disc]

My experience is that most folks that go the scale route do tend to use the better quality radio gear regardless of make but when it comes time to sell they swap it out and replace it with cheaper gear

but they still charge the rate of the top stuff

[Steve]

Also, they tend not to do 3D flying with scale models - it's a bit more errrrrr scale like in style, which is not really very demanding on the servos etc.

[Ade_Law]

i think jamie got it spot on.... lets face it most get flown once and put away.

Ade

[ChrisB]

Wrong,,,i have flown my Airwolf 600E er,,,twice


I have decent enough gear in mine but as they are flown in a more leisurely manner the midrange radio would probably suffice..

Still tempted to rip the 611 outa the Wolf though and stick it on my best 3d model

[antsis]

I think it can be safely said that the majority of rc heli pilots prefer to test their skills and models to the limit and go for 3D. However, there are a few who prefer their's to look like the real thing. After all wasn't rc flying inspired by full size aircraft?

I fall into the minority and it's not because I can't fly 3D, it's because that's the part of flying I enjoy.

without a doubt! the trouble is that the scale body's and kits tend to cost quite a lot, therefore i guess to keep the total build costs down (especially when buying a complete "radio set") that the bare minimum that will work is bought

Scale models are expensive, for example; Graupner Uni-Expert mechanics and an OS61 cost approx £450 before adding the fus. Graupner bodies can be anything from £220 - £320). Why spend that on the kit and skimp on the electronics? As you say, maybe to save pennies, but that would be short term. The retail value of my two scale models is almost £1500 without radio. One has S9252 servos, GY401. The other S9202's and CSM560 gyro. Both have PCM receivers and 2000mA batteries.

My experience is that most folks that go the scale route do tend to use the better quality radio gear regardless of make but when it comes time to sell they swap it out and replace it with cheaper gear

I expect that's true, but I think you'll find it happens with most P&B models as well. Personally, I'd rather have piece of mind in the fact I sold a good spec model to someone who, hopefully, will get as much enjoyment out of flying it as I did.

Also, they tend not to do 3D flying with scale models - it's a bit more errrrrr scale like in style, which is not really very demanding on the servos etc.

Yes, but they tend to weigh more which wouldn't necessarily load the servos as much as 3D, but why take the chance with a sub standard servo on the collective? If you crash, it's going to cost a hang of a lot more to fix than a P&B.

i think jamie got it spot on.... lets face it most get flown once and put away.

Yes, quite possibly. I don't go all out and make my models exact replica's of the real thing. I prefer them to look the part in the air. I fly my models fairly regularily, but not as much as I would a raptor 50. Too much flying can take its toll and the models start to look tatty and used. I flew my MD500/R60 constantly and in less than a year had to rub the paint off and redo it. Weather is also a big factor, wind in particular as the fus acts like a big sail. When that happens, I fly a P&B.

[bladetrasher]

but they still charge the rate of the top stuff

True and more often than not some silly sod buys it

[Steve]

Welcome back Antsis!

Haven't seen you post for a very long time.

Now from what I've seen in photos, this guy has some very nice scale models. Take note peeps.

[jamiem]

Antsis, where in Kent are you based? would love to see some nice scale flying

[Steve]

Antsis, where in Kent are you based? would love to see some nice scale flying

I'm working in Kent tomorrow - based in Dartford, but probably travelling all over the county during the day.