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    i have been asked to put a review of the Spektrum radio on RC heliaddict so here it is, sorry if there is one already

    At the 3D masters this weekend I sat in on the Spektrum seminar and I took some notes which I will share with you all.

    Basically the 2.4GHz radio system means that the old 35Mhz radio systems is now dead.
    I’ll start by saying that you can compare 35MHz as being like dial up Internet connection or narrow band and 2.4GHz is like high speed broad band Internet.

    The beauty of the spectrum system means you do not have to change your current TX as they make module that you can simply plug into the back of your own TX.

    The 35MHz band happens to be slap bang in the middle of the range of Radio frequency (RF) noise or interference, which can cause glitching; this can spread all the way up to 400MHz. However, the 2.4GHz system is well out side this RF range so will not suffer glitching problems.

    The wave length is only 12cm and therefore there is no need to fit long aerials, the Spektrum RX’s use 35mm aerials, making the model look nicer.

    Each Spektrum radio transmitter (TX) generates its own unique identifier code (up to 4,000,00. different codes), which has to be bound to the receiver (RX) therefore there, is no need for separate channels numbers.

    When you turn on your RX it listens for this code, but the TX also generates two more signals, the combination of codes means that you can have 3440 TX’s operating within a 2 miles radius.

    The Spektrum system also only sends out its signals for only 8% of the time so therefore the chances of two RX’s operating with the same two signals at the same time are also very much reduced, adding to the security of the system and as a consequence it is also has the advantage of power saving.

    The Spektrum sends out the signal 8 times faster than the 35MHz frame rate, however the RX listens to two input signals before doing anything. Overall, the response time is still almost instantaneous, freaking awesome I say! I fitted my Spektrum to my align t-Rex set up and its just lightening fast now.

    Another advantage is that all servos signals are sent at almost the same time unlike the old 35MHz which sends the signal for servo 1, then servo 2, then servo 3 and so on. Therefore, if you have a 3 servo swash plate you will find the swash plate does not travel correctly but the new Spektrum means that
    all three servos operate at the same time, gone is the wobbly swash plate travel. This what they call servo matching.

    The 6/7 and 9 channel RX’s have two separate receivers built-in, placed 2 inches apart, to ensure perfect reception all the time. In addition, because the RX’s are built on a small circuit board, able to withstand very high G loads, you do not have to use masses of foam to protect the RX.

    The DX7 TX offers model matching, the RX is bound to a particular model memory, so if you forget to select the right model and switch on, nothing will happen. You have to have the correct model selected. This feature isn’t present on the modules however.
    Another safety feature of the RX is If you switch on the model first, the RX will not send a signal to the throttle channel (very important for electric models) its a bit like pulling the servo plug from the RX and the other servos go to the fail-safe position.

    The cost of the DX7 transmitter is about £240 and addition 7 channel receivers are about £60. which is in line with standard 7 channel radios.

    I spoke to the guys from Spektrum and they will be bringing out the JR 9XII version only with some switches rearranged.

    for those of you who have experienced the glitching problems at our site on hayling island this systems offers peace of mind, for those of you who are worried about the plank fliers who have started flying near our site The spectrum system will stop them bring down our models.

    if you haven't guessed yet i am totally impressed so far with my Spektrum system. I'll be seeing you glitchy flyer's down the field this weekend.
    andrew dodds


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  • #2
    Originally posted by kingchopper View Post
    The beauty of the spectrum system means you do not have to change your current TX as they make module that you can simply plug into the back of your own TX.
    Yes, they make them, but they're not allowed to sell them!!

    Thanks to the brussels driven CE bureaucratic red tape I'm stuck on 35MHz.

    Cheers - Rob.
    Last edited by warboysastro; 30-07-2007, 06:58 AM.
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    • #3
      nice post!! Andy aka kingchopper.

      good reading man.i like it.

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      • #4
        i didnt know that, personnally i'm waiting for the jr 9xII version to come out then e-bay will see my old radio gear.
        andrew dodds


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        • #5
          Hi Andrew... yes - held up by certification paperwork.

          The general forecast is "any month now!"... don't ebay any 35MHz gear yet - you might need it.

          Cheers - Rob
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          3DX-400 Hybrid parts bin special * GY401 Gyro * Robbe 0.054sec digital tail * All CF/Aluminium construction bar plastic main gear

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          • #6
            sorry but this info is incorrect, they are not held up by certification paperwork.
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            • #7
              sorry but this info is incorrect, they are not held up by certification paperwork.
              indeed...

              Trev
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              • #8
                Well why can't I buy one? That's the message I've had from Inwoods - they need 4 pointless bits of paper, they have 3, and need another, or something.

                Do I detect something more sinister? Technical issues?

                All I know is I want to go 2.4GHz and I can't

                Cheers - Rob
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                3DX-400 Hybrid parts bin special * GY401 Gyro * Robbe 0.054sec digital tail * All CF/Aluminium construction bar plastic main gear

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                • #9
                  the problem is a missing washer, once that arrives they can be sold. The ETA I think was late this week.
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                  • #10
                    something I did find out (for those importing spektrum gear). The UK sets are less powerful than US sets due to European legislation (we can thank the French and Germans for this, it's not a UK instigated problem). Before anyone panics, this has no effect on the range which is still huge......it just means imported sets are effectively not legal under european legislation.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ashley Davis View Post
                      something I did find out (for those importing spektrum gear). The UK sets are less powerful than US sets due to European legislation (we can thank the French and Germans for this, it's not a UK instigated problem). Before anyone panics, this has no effect on the range which is still huge......it just means imported sets are effectively not legal under european legislation.
                      Are you sure? I know the Futaba ones are all identical but just have a DIP switch inside for France to lessen the power. Do Spektrum not do the same then?
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                      • #12
                        A washer? lol Is this some kind of RF gasket/washer or literally a mechanical metal washer? Also - how long to fit said washer to all the modules sat in the warehouse? I reckon we'll be lucky to see these things this side of Christmas.

                        As for output power, will be interesting to get it on the bench coupled to a wattmeter and have a tweak of the RF output stages (being a radio amateur has its benefits). I can't see different build standards for different countries - it'll probably be just output stage adjustment. I believe the euro imposed limit was 100mW? Beyond that I think it's in the region of RF safety distances and all that malarky.

                        Cheers - Rob

                        PS. ah - hang on, this isn't the shakeproof washer to stop the SMA connector on the coax plug coming undone is it? As per the JR problem?
                        Last edited by warboysastro; 30-07-2007, 12:13 PM.
                        T-Rex 600CF-E * GY601 Gyro * S9251 digital Tail * S3152 digital Cyclic * 2x 4800 Aurorra LiPos * 600L Motor * TT composite 600mm blades

                        3DX-400 Hybrid parts bin special * GY401 Gyro * Robbe 0.054sec digital tail * All CF/Aluminium construction bar plastic main gear

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                        • #13
                          I believe it's a rubberised washer of some description, I'm in constant touch with Skyline (my dad works there) and it's now very very close, less than two weeks for sure.
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                          • #14
                            Nice review but its about 7 months late

                            Whats the next review,the new Raptor 50 V2 ?

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                            • #15
                              it's never too late, there's always beginners who need to read that sort of thing.
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