HH Class Action ?

[Gareth-71]

Hi

After suffering many thousands of pounds of losses directly through the DX8 issues, I have been snubbed by HH as expected. So now I am considering suing them through a class action if anyone else wants to join the claim.

At best, losses and costs will be recovered, at worst we will prove that the DX8 and many other heli electronics are not fit for purpose and will get them recalled or banned.

Trust me, it will not be difficult to prove that the DX7,DX8, DX6i, DX9 etc etc do NOT conform to CE requirements with respect to EMC and therefore all insurance will be invalid if these sets are used but anyone.

I understand that this **** off a lot of people - but HH must refund ALL of these people, regardless of the age of their sets, or offer a suitable upgrade

Mark my words, someone is going to get killed and I will not stand idly by.

In case of any confusion: IF YOU HAVE A DX8 - DO NOT USE IT - YOU ARE ENDANGERING YOURSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE - JUST BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN FINE UNTIL NOW DOES NOT MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR USE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

Send it back to HH for refund regardless if age.

Gareth

[Gate88]

Do it Gareth!

I'm watching with interest!

[eye1der]

mmmmm! wots the problems with them? i was gonna go buy a DX6I but think i might save up for a JR now...!

[Si_B]

Why ??

[Gareth-71]

mmmmm! wots the problems with them? i was gonna go buy a DX6I but think i might save up for a JR now...!

Hi

The problem is the DX8 - but in proving the DX8 not fir for use, it will also probably show the rest of the DX range unfit for use. I am very aware of what is required for conformity, and am confident that none of these sets comply.

Gareth

[Gareth-71]

Why ??

Simple : someone is going to get killed - nearly was and will not accept HH hiding from the issues.

[Si_B]

Why all of a sudden are all their radios not fit for purpose ?? If you are going to persue this, maybe you should share what you have found.

[Paulice]

Never used one my self but I've never had a problem with Futaba, so never felt the need to change.
But i do know many people over here use them so i'll be watching this topic closely, and "Warn my friends over here of the problems and keep them updated of what's happening at HH.

Let's hope something is done before the worst gets to happen!

[Gareth-71]

Why all of a sudden are all their radios not fit for purpose ?? If you are going to persue this, maybe you should share what you have found.

Hi

Sure my findings are deeply technical in detail and will be published in due course - enough for me to allocate a lot funds for fighting this
In any event a quick look around the forums draws a pretty clear picture.


Gareth

[pgkevet]

Intriguing! Will this action relate to the tx's alone or include the rx's... and does it just implicate the Dx6i through to the dx8 or cover all the spektrum series and the JR's that used the earlier technology...or hit all rc 2.4 radio?

Heck, go for it.. I like to see individuals standing up for their beliefs and whatever the outcome then if this gets as far as a press release or court date then it's going to really stir up the rc hobby...just think of all that BnF stuff out there for planks etc

[Al M]

I am using a DX8 - and I am very happy with it. I am sure many other people reading this stuff are also. I am quite new to the hobby, and posts like this now have me doubting the kit I have invested my hard earned cash in. These posts are worrying to us who don't have the technical expertise to make an informed decision for ourselves about the reliability of equipment.

So far the DX8 issues are - I suspect this... it could be that... I think...maybe it is. No one is saying I can confirm that this problem was caused by a DX8. It seems a few people have a bad experience and it is automatically the DX8's fault.

I am not saying that there are no problems, it may be proven that there are problems in the future. But without posting something that looks like evidence, some of these posts do read like scare-mongering by people who have had a bit of bad luck and want to discredit someone. And for the people around the fringes of this hobby, just getting into it - it is just demoralizing.

[zoombolt]

Gareth

Maybe an e-mail to Futaba might get you some 'sponsership' due to any adverse marketing PR to their competitor!
Just a thought, given Futaba's recent advertising campaign.

Oh, I won't be joining in as I am Futaba'd up to the eyeballs.

Good luck

[Si_B]

I must admit I agree with the post above. If there are problems, it would have been good to see the evidence before the accusation.

[Rctintin]

I agree with Al M. It would be good for all concerned if you had posted your evidence with this thread, as now lots of people will be thinking what are you on about Gareth.

I have had no problems with either my Dx7 or Dx8 so far.

If you are correct, then well done. But, do you really think that JR would be involved with Spektrum if there was a 'Not fit for purpose' issue with Spektrum products?

I watch with much interest, and look forward to reading the outcome of this. I hope you have deep pockets!

[cjcj1949]

I thought the DX7 was built by JR. It is based on a JR design. Is it DSM2 that you consider unsafe? All radio control has a certain probability of failure as any signal can be blocked. I have mentioned before that any system that relies on ground based reception (for frequency control) is inherently unreliable as an airborne rx can be in range of two txs that are out of ground range. There is still quite a low probabilty of failure unless there are a large number of ground txs within range of the airborne rx.

The same problem applies with any system. To a lesser extent with frequency hopping. But if rc becomes popular enough all systems will run out of bandwidth. One way to avoid the problem would be to have highly directional communication, so that the rx knows where the tx is and adjusts its antennas to focus on its own tx.

Chris