HeadHold confusion!!!

[aaron-88]

Hi all
im rather confused with the concept of headhold!
if im flying in headhold i know that it will hold its heading but if i was to put in right rudder am i right in thinking that it would do a full 360 until it comes back to its original heading????
if so how are you supposed to fly circuits and so on,because if i was to put a rudder control in its going to 360 in mid flight or am i wrong???
Please help

Thanks Aaron

[Mslater]

No you are a long way wide of the mark.

In Head hold mode the gyro will keep the tail in the position you last commanded.

If you move your rudder stick left the heli will begin rotating Anti-Clockwise - the more rudder you put in - the faster it will turn. It stops turning and 'locks' at the point you let the stick go back to the middle.

[GIXERMAN]

+1 I go along with that, well said that man.

[aaron-88]

Ahhh!!!thank you that makes alot more sense now!i have been flying for about a month now but only in rate mode,and have now moved on to forward flight and circuits,but have never used hh and heard it was better to fly with it in hh!?
thanks again!!!
Aaron

[R1stu]

Ahhh!!!thank you that makes alot more sense now!i have been flying for about a month now but only in rate mode,and have now moved on to forward flight and circuits,but have never used hh and heard it was better to fly with it in hh!?
thanks again!!!
Aaron

In only a month? ive been flying 18m and only just mastered the hover!

[aaron-88]

yes its my 1st heli and i got it late october,and crashed it after a week in which i had to wait 2weeks for parts and do a complete rebuild,but i fly everyday even if the wind is a little to strong i think it adds to your reflexes,i found hovering quite easy apart from nose in which confuses the hell out of me,side on i can do,and now flying it from in front of me away to my left and bring it round in a half circle to my right.
how often do you fly?

[callum]

If your flying in rate mode..

I say stick with it a while longer.. Maybe over the period of the basics.. Some may disagree but it teaches you better tail control in my opinion.

-Callum

[Heli-Bren]

If your flying in rate mode..

I say stick with it a while longer.. Maybe over the period of the basics.. Some may disagree but it teaches you better tail control in my opinion.

-Callum

LoL i remember learning to control the tail on my Twister 3D storm cos the gyro was garbage ! ended up rate mode flying ! I agree you become a human gyro !

aaron when you've switched to heading hold you'll never look back

[Biggles]

If your flying in rate mode..

I say stick with it a while longer.. Maybe over the period of the basics.. Some may disagree but it teaches you better tail control in my opinion.

-Callum

Totally agree!!!!

Also flying circuits is better without HH as the tail will weathercock with the direction of travel.

HH does make hovering easier but it's a bit like driving an automatic car.....something else is doing the majority of the work.

Until you are doing backwards flying then HH is not really needed......even in aeros I prefer not to use HH as if you don't go into a loop straight then HH will make sure it won't come out straight. Same with rolls.

[woody5248]

which is which?

Ladies and gents,

I am relatively new at this as well, i can hover and fly short circuits. Nose in etc is not a problem as i have been flying planks for 20 plus years.

Please can you tell me which mode is which, when the tail rotor self centres and when it stays where you leave it. Please could you also confirm which is best for what. I do not want to make the flying too easy as i will not progress.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

[Biggles]

With the heli on the bench....If the tail rotor self centres then thats normal or rate mode. With HH if you move the the rudder stick even a tiny amount it will eventually reach the full length of travel.

As for best then that is personal preference. HH is much easier for backwards flying and 3D etc

[aaron-88]

Thanks for all the help peeps!!and like woody im slightly confused with setup,on the bench and in headhold if i put in right stick the tail rotor stays at that position(doesn't come back centre)is this right????

[J-S-Q]

on the bench and in headhold if i put in right stick the tail rotor stays at that position(doesn't come back centre)is this right????

Yes, that is heading hold.

[Balders]

yeah, think of it as the heli trying to counter-act a turning force. On the bench, the heli is obviously not responding (ie turning) to any amount of input, therefore the gyro will tell the servo to keep adding more input to give it more force. If you then manually move the tail in the direction you were telling it to go (ie right rudder = move the tail to the left so heli nose points right) the servo should come back a bit more towards centre.

Personally, I am still a beginner and have not even put my heli into "normal" non-HH mode yet

Makes hovering adjustments really snappy

[Dedcalm]

In HH mode if you move the heli the gyro will move the tail pitch to try to bring the heli back to the last commanded position from the Tx. Similarly if you move the rudder stick on the Tx the gyro will move the tail pitch to try to bring the heli to the commanded position.

Rate mode makes for a simpler forward flight as the tail will weather **** to follow the nose and makes flying more like a fixed wing model. In heading hold mode you have to also 'fly' the tail (which is good practice!) else when adding aileron the heli will roll over rather than bank and turn - if you see what I mean