Outrage Velocity .50 or 600LE?

[Lynx.1677]

That's that settled then. Will order one! Woohoo. Now, need to buy the Mrs something.

[Swashbuckler]

Ugg boots?

[Lynx.1677]

Okay, after pricing up a Velocity .50 I am having 2nd thoughts. I really want one, they are beautiful and different but for the same money (less in fact) I can have a 700LE with all the bits (engine, electrics, rx, starter and fuel).

The good thing about the trex kits is that they come with all the electrics where as with the Outrgage I would have to buy the electrics seperately and also blades (although you do get a muffler and os55 in the kit I was looking at).

What to do!

I owned a 700 but never really pushed it hard..........so is the Velo better than a .90 Trex?

[Jamin_00]

Cant compare any 50 to any 90 in my book.


Just different league

[Sesame]

Thinking it from a slightly different angle, I think it all depends on what stage your flying is at, the 600 is simple to get bits and to repair, but if your looking to improve your flying then the Velo is a darn good choice, when I had mine I have to admit to looking at it during building and seeing alot of things I thought would give me trouble in a crash, having said that there are alot of people out there flying and crashing them without a problem.

if your going to start to compare 90's to 50's then your opening up a whole new can of worms, and once you get the mindset that a 90 is a good idea, then your opening up to N9, avant, vibe 90 etc etc.

bigger + heavier + more inertia = bigger repair bills.

[Swashbuckler]

You may get electronics with a 700 but are they really that good? You can get second hand good gyros all the time. 3 bls 451s are only 60 quid more than 3 610s. Align 2 in 1 against any other good regulator out there? No contest. So what I'm saying is, if you are asking is a 700 with crud gear in it better than a velo with good gear in it? No I don't think so. And I reckon a velo with a 55 swinging 630s has better or equal power to weight than a 700, and lower repair costs. You already had a 700 why did you get rid of it? I would never part with my velo, when it started to wear out I turned it into a night flyer and bought a new one.

[Vanquish]

Personally I'd definitely stick with a 50. You can probably get a 700 for a similar price to a velocity but its the quality of electronics your using, fuel costs, spare prices etc that really make the difference in the long run. I've spent nearly £900 on a Trex 500, I could have got it flying for £400-£450 but I wanted all the best kit and imo its definitely been worth it because its a superb machine.

If you want the 700 then go for it, but if it was me i'd go for a 50 size with a 55 and some nice servos. Almost as much power as the 700 with much lower running costs and will make a much better platform for perfecting your 3D

[barney]

Your Initial outlay of your Velo 50 is compensated by the price of Parts. For example a TT. With the Velo you just re-use the TT ends, 2 tubes per pkt for £3.36! Most prices are around the same as Trex.

Couple things i'm not keen on..radio Install is cramp. I find the 600 easier to work on generally but both have advantages. The Velo I find very hard to orientate in flight due to the black U/C and Canopy..The side area is small and colours.

No 3 was my main reason for going back to the 600 but convienance is high on my list also

Brian

[snjbird]

Lynx,

I am going to give you an opinion based on some observation, and some advise from a friend who has tried most everything out there. First let me say I have been watching him fly his Velocity .50 for 5 months, This is the kind of guy who would rather sell something at a loss, rather than fly crap! So he has put 55 or 60 gallons through the Velocity in that time, running a Hyper .50! The machine is solid, He crashed it a few times and never complained about parts or repair cost? Just down time... Again we are here in the US, so he had easy access to parts, but, like you, by mail order only. He now has the velocity for sale, and is shopping for an 700LE kit.

The only complainant I ever heard from him, was on the head setup, he said they had too many choices?

[Swashbuckler]

he said they had too many choices?

That's brilliant! Is this why Americans call horse riding "horse back riding" like be more specific man!

Choice is good.

[maderdog_1024]

Price wise they are not that bad, the new TT X50 is £399.99 in kit form. !

What about the JR Vibe 50 ?

[barney]

TT X50 is £399.99 in kit form. !

Personally I would not consider a X50 as its not mainstream enough to ensure good parts supply. I know TT have been around a long time but they sat back to long.

IMHO Outrage are an evolving company and are here for the long haul. There designs are innovative too and fly exceptionally well. I just struggled to see the Damn thing to much. ( Had 2 Velo's now)

The Velo 50 Radio tray layout leaves a lot to be desired and also the servo cables when using for example JRDS8915's (marginally larger than most) meant a very tight bend of the cable where it exits the servo.
Another bit that I wasn't over impressed with is the dia of the counter shaft.

Like any decent Heli with a little thought and if built well you can avoid most of these potential areas of trouble.

[squeaky pete]

ely q vision comp xe, comes fully upgraded, power to weight it awesome, comes with carbon tails and paddles,j just add ur leccy, mains, and engine and it good to go, and fook me they go

[raptorheli2]

TT X50 is £399.99 in kit form. !

Personally I would not consider a X50 as its not mainstream enough to ensure good parts supply. I know TT have been around a long time but they sat back to long.

IMHO Outrage are an evolving company and are here for the long haul. There designs are innovative too and fly exceptionally well. I just struggled to see the Damn thing to much. ( Had 2 Velo's now)

The Velo 50 Radio tray layout leaves a lot to be desired and also the servo cables when using for example JRDS8915's (marginally larger than most) meant a very tight bend of the cable where it exits the servo.
Another bit that I wasn't over impressed with is the dia of the counter shaft.

Like any decent Heli with a little thought and if built well you can avoid most of these potential areas of trouble.

barney-the 90 had addressed the ccpm shaft-i assume it will migrate to the 50.

the visibility thing i completely agree with. the model is so sleek it's a problem! i think the best thing is what you done and put some decals down the side in whatever colour you prefer, align bright UC colour of your choice an then add the neon fins of your choice from fastlad for the vel 50-good as gold. that said not everyone has problems seeing it so maybe just us!

the radio install is tight. what you need to do is take the plastic front off and pack wires behind it then put the front back on. even then it is tight but it all goes in so long as your not going to use a 611/gv1 and an arizona reg.

can't comment on the elyq-never had one.

on the subject of TT-i'd like to be in the meeting when they realised-we messed this up big time. i hope someone at my club buys one for a nosey but i'll avoid the temptation to try one.

cheers