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    Breathing new life into dim night blades
    My align 600D night blades are getting a bit weak, only a couple of flight at most on a charge before one loses its blue LED. At least the other seems stronger.
    Has anyone broken a set and investigated what lipo is inside what the circuit there is? I recently wired up my cellpro 10 to one of the blades. The measured volts on the uncharged blade was 3.8v, the charger output seems to be 4.2V, but set to either auto 1C or 100mA the cellpro errors on no cell add up. I was hoping a better charger might get more life out of it. Maybe I’ll try connecting them as a 2 cell but the cellpro10S is supposed to charge a single cell.
    The other question about the circuit is that because the blade lights if you plug the charger in backwards, you can actually connect an external lipo and power them like that. Folks in USA have been shrink wrapping little lipos on the outside to revive their blades (like they do to make their own night blades) and I’m thinking of doing that. Provided the weight is near the blade root the forces aren’t too big. Apparently the lipo needs to be terminals toward the root and sealed end toward the tip for best structural integrity.

    I saw an interesting setup on a 500 heli at NNFC fly-in (didn’t get the pilots name)– 3 little lipos in a little round box screwed in place of the head button, applying 11.1v to the blades making them very bright. He also had a force dependant switch that made the blades come on when they rotated.
    Now applying an extra single cell in parallel to the internal lipo is fine in my book. The crappy internal lipo cannot be over charged be connecting another single cell in parallel. However applying 2 or 3x the voltage would in effect overcharge the knackered internal lipo inside the blade root, unless there is a protective diode or something. Is there a risk that there could be a little blade root explosion to add interest to the night flying experience?

    Mods: how about a night flying forum section? I think I asked this before.
    www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
    600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
    trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
    "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
    MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

    Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

  • #2
    Feel free to hack your blades up before I sell mine off as cheep day blades

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    • #3
      If your night baldes batteries are duff, I'd have them as cheap day blades!

      I doubt it will take that long before I have a broken set of night blades
      www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
      600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
      trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
      "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
      MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

      Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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      • #4
        just stick a couple of blade mcx batteries on the blades job done Howto: external lipo for Align 325 night blade guide - HeliFreak

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        • #5
          Seems the 600 night blades have 2S in them. PErhaps 2S lion or something as the charger is sitting at about 6v with the blades quite flat. will check what it is when charged.

          If the 325 blades are single cell lipo, how come I can charge the 600 blades with the same charger?
          www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
          600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
          trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
          "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
          MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

          Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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          • #6
            All align blades run off a 1s lipo the only thing different is the capacity. I have converted my 600 night blades with an msr battery and they're very bright. Haven't flown with them yet though. I'd guess the batteries in your blades are cooked if they're taking 6v

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            • #7
              Hmm, fully charged they are reading almost 6v, which makes me wonder what is really inside them! its definitely sometihng my cellpro10S can't cope with no matter how low the starting voltage is.

              The blade batts are not completely knackered. One blade lasts 40mins, the other only 10mins.


              I'm using the std 325 align blade charger running off 12v. however the output of the mains adaptor is only 6.5v which makes me wonder what is going on here.

              Mt 425 blades seem to work fine. The 325 blades (from where the charger comes) where completely hopeless (lasted only seconds).
              www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
              600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
              trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
              "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
              MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

              Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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