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    Hi guys, the first time I hovered I used training gear, but since I have changed tail servo and gyro and got pretty much set up, I have been hovering a little in garden and never bothered putting training gear on, and my heli is still in one piece, do you think I should use it, or sack it off, as seems to be a he'll of alot easier to fly without it!!

    Thanks
    Kev





  • #2
    depends on your landings Kev,
    if they are a controlled landing and just for hovering i would say leave them off
    but if your landings are a bit uncontrolled i would say leave them on mate
    but well done mate for hovering without them
    cheers
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    • #3
      Probably 3 out of 4 were controlled, although there was the one time where the wind caught it a bit and was a little less controlled, however I think at the field I could hover higher than in my garden, so this wouldn't have happened
      Kev




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      • #4
        if you don't need it, leave it off.
        if most of your landings are controlled, but every flying day still ends in a crash, keep it on. Spend the time practising, not repairing the heli (it's cheaper, too).

        There is the danger that you get used to the balls as an orientation aid. So try to get rid of it, but only if you really don't need it anymore.
        On a T-Rex 450, a proper landing gear doesn't affect the handling very much. I've done piroflips with one, it feels more or less normal, except the spinning cloud of balls
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        • #5
          Training gear-yes or no?

          Maybe run through a couple more lipos with them on just to make sure you have full control coming in for a landing. If you're happy then take them off, otherwise they just become a hindrance to the helis performance and offer a false sense of security to crashing!

          Good luck and well done on the progress.
          Steve

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          • #6
            I am to now take mine off this week , started monday flying and now have take offs sorted landings pretty good, been flying to day in some pretty windy stuff and think it was bobbing more due to the balls catching the wind?

            i think they do make you feel more secure and can do dodgy landing knowing they are on.

            ant

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            • #7
              took mine off today for 1 pack. the first time with out them. It hovered alot better and focused my mind alot more. i was alot more precise with my hovering as i knew i had no safe gard. Idont know if it was me flying better or the helli working better but it was hell of alot better with out them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GravityKills View Post
                There is the danger that you get used to the balls as an orientation aid.
                Damn..!

                I was about to say they make a good orientation aid.

                I'm a fluoro-ball dependent...
                Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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                • #9
                  Training gear-yes or no?

                  Ant

                  If you're flying in a bit of a breeze and the heli's bobbing because extra airflow over the blades (transitional lift), so the heli increases in altitude for a given pitch. When the gust drops there's a decrease in lift and the heli drops.
                  Steve

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scallybert View Post
                    Damn..!

                    I was about to say they make a good orientation aid.

                    I'm a fluoro-ball dependent...
                    you'll get over it
                    All it takes is practice.
                    When side-in hovering, look at the skids.

                    You can also move the balls further to the inside.

                    PS if nothing else helps get some beer cans - see avatar
                    Last edited by GravityKills; 17-06-2010, 08:29 PM.
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                    • #11
                      The first time I flew my balls caused me to crash on my Honey Bee so I brought my blade and never put the back on.

                      If you are doing well then keep them off.

                      Nice slow controlled landings
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                      • #12
                        Give it a couple or so more flight with it mate... Just so you get the confidence of flying the heli. After that......... hell, the sky's the limit Kev!!!

                        Congrats mate.. happy you actually hovered a few flights without the gear! like I said earlier, take it slow matey

                        All the best Kev... Keep us informed on the progress
                        Jason

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                        • #13
                          Thanks guys, much appreciated, without the help of you guys on the forum and the guys down the club, I would never have got here on my own, so a big thank you to you all
                          Kev




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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GravityKills View Post
                            you'll get over it
                            Here's hoping...
                            All it takes is practice.
                            When side-in hovering, look at the skids.

                            You can also move the balls further to the inside.

                            PS if nothing else helps get some beer cans - see avatar
                            The balls are just outside the G5 skids, and they're much easier to see quickly if the orientation gets confused.

                            I don't have them on the (indoor) H200 or BuzzFly. They're flown much closer, though,
                            Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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                            • #15
                              There is another reason and solution for keeping the TG on.

                              If the field you'd eventually fly from is not a flat field (i.e. no pot holes, marks left by golfers, tall grass etc ) then it might be worth keeping the TG on coz as others said -you want to keep the repair time to minimum. I use 500 landing gear in my 450 Pro and it saved a few mishaps during landings. Worth considering - see the link :

                              http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/t-rex-...rcarriage.html

                              Cheers

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