General 3D question

[Gate88]

Not that I'm ready yet for full on 3D yet but one thing that's bugging me is how do you get a into the various positions.

If I bang both sticks forward my heli moves as in fig 1, that being the case then how do 3D pilots acheive fig 2?

[crash-alot]

I'm no expert, but once you've gained foward momentum, you need to bring the collective back to mid stick and the heli will start going inverted as per fig 2

Not that I'm ready yet for full on 3D yet but one thing that's bugging me is how do you get a into the various positions.

If I bang both sticks forward my heli moves as in fig 1, that being the case then how do 3D pilots acheive fig 2?

[marktigere1]

If you learn to do a stationary flip (on sim) then fig 2 will become easier to understand.

It's all about collective management.

Not that I fly or even could fly 3D.

Ta

[Tom Burgess]

Why would you bang both sticks forward?

[Sqwidge]

Why would you bang both sticks forward?

lol to test the gimbles, because of the gryoscopic effect of your disc (blades spinning) when the servo tilts them it makes the heli roll over (same principle as a bike wheel and a swivel chair) then you feed in negative to thrust the heli up whilst upside down, your heli has to be set up though and you must be in idle up, I tried it once in normal after a brain fart and it didnt work out well for the heli lol

[Tom Burgess]

lol to test the gimbles

must be cos you wouldnt want to fly like that

[Gate88]

Why would you bang both sticks forward?

Figure of speech! Perhaps I should have said a "brisk increase"

[Tom Burgess]

Figure of speech! Perhaps I should have said a "brisk increase"

lol, fly the heli instead of the sticks and you will be easing fig.2 in no time!

[GravityKills]

time for some experimenting in the sim...
Hint: Get a .90 model and turn down the simulation speed to 40 %. More time to think.

[tourerjim]

time for some experimenting in the sim...
Hint: Get a .90 model and turn down the simulation speed to 40 %. More time to think.

ah is that why I dont have stick power cos my simulation speed is too low! sorry to pinch this post for a moment this has happened since last update.

[Tosh]

ls this on a simulater or a model?
There is no way both sticks foward should give you fig 1.

[Tom Burgess]

ls this on a simulater or a model?
There is no way both sticks foward should give you fig 1.

not unless they were both banged forward and then the cyclic was returned to neutral

[ivor-bigen]

The first move is a pitch increase coupled with a small amount of forward elevator, elevator is then held in that position while increaseing the pitch to make it clim away in the direction the nose is pointing.

To make it perform the 2nd move
The pitch is increased to start a small amount of lift, then you apply forward elevator to start the roll over and at the same time you return the pitch to 0 so as not to pull the heli forwards in positive pitch.
To make the roll over larger you can keep a small amount of positive pitch applyed.