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    Lucky escape - 1st flip

    Was feeling particularly brave this afternoon and on my 2nd flight after practicing stall turns (albeit rather poor ones) I decided to bite the bullet so to speak and go for a flip - never done this before. I forgot that the previous week I have tinkered with my governor/idle up setting to put them all on 1 switch and so with my old governor switch set and in normal mode I pulled back and over she went, fed in some negative (only a 2 or 3 degrees as thats all I have in normal mode) at which point of course with the governor not actually engaged the engine went back to just above idle -

    luckily I had the foresight to do the manouver at some height and the old Hyper picked up the RPM quite quickly with the full +ve pitch blades beating the air into submission as it came out at the bottom - about 10 feet up (similar height to my heart at the time and my adrenaline levels!). Had to land it to calm down.

    lesson learned - cant wait to have another go now
    Rob


    T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
    Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
    Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
    Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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  • #2
    Great story..... I've wanted to try this with my Trex but always bottle out.....next time
    David
    Happy Landings.
    David

    Winner of SEVEN of the BEST (Eddie Gold Stars)...humbled!

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    • #3
      I have been bottling out since I started flying the Rappy again back in April - glad I did it but stupid mistake to make - increadible how you can forget making such a change to the Tx setup...
      Rob


      T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
      Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
      Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
      Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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      • #4
        At least you did it! +++

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        • #5
          top tip don't do flipsin normal mode!! You gov will dis-arm after a throttle drops to a point
          Me early atemps well i'd did them ok But when i show off i'd forget to to change to idleup! That gutless sound is my worest night mare heheh and just holdingon for dear life i'd get round in tim before hitting deck
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          • #6
            The best way I think if it helps is to get the heli into a climb then mid stick & roll you should get the purfect roll then once you've mastered that then start giving some negative pitch.
            Today's outlook is fine for flying.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SadSack View Post
              You gov will dis-arm after a throttle drops to a point
              Your right but it hangs off Ch.7 and wasnt actually enabled for it disable when throttle dropped below 25% or whatever it is with the TJ Pro... I think if this had been the case then I would have ended up with more head speed as the governor would have been active until the cut off where as my linear throttle curve dropped the throttle as soon as I lowered the pitch.

              Just tried to replicate the event on Phoenix and it does seem to loose a lot less height when compared to the real thing... perhaps my head speed is lower than the sport Raptor 50 on the sim...
              Rob


              T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
              Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
              Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
              Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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              • #8
                Well took the oportunity to pop up the field this evening and to my surprise there was no-one there and it was warm and still(ish)
                Anyway got one flight in before being eaten alive my mozzies got the better of me and during that flight i did some more rather rubbish stall turns in both directions and then chucked it in IDL2 and tried another backwards flip - paused for a fraction of a second inverted to prove I could climb inverted and finished the flip. Much better than the heart stopping one last time and I finished higher than I started
                really pleased with myself now - I hope I have pushed through my seeing £'s instead of pushing myself.
                Rob


                T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
                Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
                Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
                Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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                • #9
                  congratulations
                  Cheers,
                  Jake

                  Blade CP+
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                  • #10
                    Should have gone to Specsavers
                    Today's outlook is fine for flying.
                    • Spektrum DX18 gen2, Phoenix Sims, Align MR25XP.
                    • Blade Nano, mCP X, 130x, Blade 180, Mini T 450se
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                    • Trex 600E Gpro DFC, Trex 600NSP now Gpro, DFC, Redline 56
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                    • A helicopter is an aircraft that is lifted and propelled by one or more horizontal rotors because Wikipedia said so.

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                    • #11
                      Indeed
                      Rob


                      T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
                      Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
                      Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
                      Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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                      • #12
                        A fellow club member wanted a picture of me hovering my 600N inverted for the club website so I lifted off and rolled inverted, no problem. When he'd taken the pictures I pulled the stick back to climb inverted and that was the point at which I discovered than I was still in normal mode While I was hovering inverted I was just above the governors activation point but as soon as I went to climb out the engine started to fade, luckily I had enough time to roll out.
                        Steve H

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                        • #13
                          Blimey - it does go to show just how much energy is stored in the rotors though not that I really want to test it again

                          I bet lots of people have similar experiences though...
                          Rob


                          T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
                          Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
                          Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
                          Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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                          • #14
                            Yep I've done it, aways now switch to idle up before take offs then switch norm mod if playing hover games.
                            Today's outlook is fine for flying.
                            • Spektrum DX18 gen2, Phoenix Sims, Align MR25XP.
                            • Blade Nano, mCP X, 130x, Blade 180, Mini T 450se
                            • Trex 250dfc Gpro, Trex 500EFL Gpro.
                            • Trex 600E Gpro DFC, Trex 600NSP now Gpro, DFC, Redline 56
                            • Flickr Through My Pictures.
                            • A helicopter is an aircraft that is lifted and propelled by one or more horizontal rotors because Wikipedia said so.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dedcalm View Post
                              Was feeling particularly brave this afternoon and on my 2nd flight after practicing stall turns (albeit rather poor ones) I decided to bite the bullet so to speak and go for a flip - never done this before. I forgot that the previous week I have tinkered with my governor/idle up setting to put them all on 1 switch and so with my old governor switch set and in normal mode I pulled back and over she went, fed in some negative (only a 2 or 3 degrees as thats all I have in normal mode) at which point of course with the governor not actually engaged the engine went back to just above idle -

                              luckily I had the foresight to do the manouver at some height and the old Hyper picked up the RPM quite quickly with the full +ve pitch blades beating the air into submission as it came out at the bottom - about 10 feet up (similar height to my heart at the time and my adrenaline levels!). Had to land it to calm down.

                              lesson learned - cant wait to have another go now

                              Well done, great flying. I was reading that and I could feel the panic starting to setting well with me anyhow. Great control at the end with the near auto
                              Mike, 3rd Hampton Scout Group
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