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    I'm debating a fuselage and it comes with retracts but the only port I have free on my Rx (ar6100e) is the one you use for binding to your tx, can you plug a retract kit into this port and get it to work off the gear switch on a dx6i or will I need to move things around?

    Any help would be appreciated although a fuzz owner would be more helpful as you will of had to overcome this hiccup
    Nik.

    Before you ask:

    About 2 miles
    Over £500
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  • #2
    honestly not a big specky user but if once you've bind rx to tx, why not see if servo still works? Only use bind once
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    • #3
      tried that it don't work Looking at the the Tx though it says that gear is on same switch as Idle up?!?! Maybe the gear is activated and retracts when I hit Idle? but how does this work?
      Nik.

      Before you ask:

      About 2 miles
      Over £500
      Very difficult
      Over 80mph
      NO, you can't have a go



      Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

      RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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      • #4
        How bout this for quick but not so sure thinking?! My 401 has 3 wires and a single wire, now if I take the single wire out and use that switch for retracts will my gyro remain permenantly in HH or will it be in rate mode? If in HH that is no problem as I fly in HH anyway, Also how would I adjust the gain if not by remote on a 401 or is it a case of unplug retracts set the gain unplug the 4th wire plug in retracts?
        Last edited by Sqwidge; 02-08-2009, 03:20 PM.
        Nik.

        Before you ask:

        About 2 miles
        Over £500
        Very difficult
        Over 80mph
        NO, you can't have a go



        Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

        RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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        • #5
          Nik

          You are on the right lines, read my response on a previous airwolf thread.

          http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...-fuselage.html

          Hope it helps.
          Martin

          x2
          Rave 450
          Trex 250se
          DX7se

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          • #6
            Thats good to know but not sure how exactly that works, could I not use a Y lead from the gyro gain channel then have it in rate for take off and gear down then flick to HH and gear up for flying? Is this possible or would the gyro gain amount be a factor in this?
            Nik.

            Before you ask:

            About 2 miles
            Over £500
            Very difficult
            Over 80mph
            NO, you can't have a go



            Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

            RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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            • #7
              This is a possibility, I put together a retract controller for a mates 500 airwolf a few months back and I seem to remember this was either gear up or down depending on which side of servo centre it was. The main reason for the retract controller I made was to allow the retract servos (3) to be powered from their own battery pack rather than from the Rx (just in case of binding etc). It also allowed 2 of the 3 servo's position to be adjusted in relation to the other so as to ensure they matched movement wise. Of course the EPA was used to control the actual servo end points which would not be possible using the gyro gain channel...
              Rob


              T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
              Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
              Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
              Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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              • #8
                The retract kit I will be getting only has one servo to control all 3 wheels so matching movement should be ok, I just need a heli whizz that happens to know electronics (not asking much lol) to tell me if the 70% gain (example) I have in HH wil stop the retracs from fully rising or falling.
                I personally don't see a problem with it working but im only going on the signal for up and down I dont know if the gain will affect any part of the retract system.

                I have put a wanted up but as ppl will read this first, if you have a small servo tester with adjustable knob that can be mounted to a Blade without hassle then please let me know. ty.
                Now to continue problem solving lol
                Nik.

                Before you ask:

                About 2 miles
                Over £500
                Very difficult
                Over 80mph
                NO, you can't have a go



                Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

                RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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                • #9
                  Nik

                  By using the servo tester method your gyro stays in heading hold regardless if your retracts are up or down as the gyro gain is adjusted independantly by the servo tester.

                  The servo tester is marked 1 to 10 with the tester in position 7 this was equivelant to 70% gain.
                  Martin

                  x2
                  Rave 450
                  Trex 250se
                  DX7se

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sqwidge View Post
                    I'm debating a fuselage and it comes with retracts but the only port I have free on my Rx (ar6100e) is the one you use for binding to your tx, can you plug a retract kit into this port and get it to work off the gear switch on a dx6i or will I need to move things around?
                    (AFAIK) No. The AR6100(e) is 6 channels. That would be a 7th channel.

                    That connector is power & bind only. The signal pin on that connector is only there to be grounded for binding.
                    Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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                    • #11
                      Looks like the servo tester is the route to go, thanks peoples.
                      Whats best to paint it with as its clear and needs building when it arrives? Would normal black and white spray from Halfrauds do the job?
                      Last edited by Sqwidge; 02-08-2009, 05:25 PM.
                      Nik.

                      Before you ask:

                      About 2 miles
                      Over £500
                      Very difficult
                      Over 80mph
                      NO, you can't have a go



                      Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

                      RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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                      • #12
                        Can someone explain to me like i'm 5 how idle up works please and I dont mean, flick a switch and your motor goes nuts explanation, I want to know if I could splice my retract servo into idle up so that in normal mode the gear is down and in idle its up, as I fly in idle up and only use normal for landing and take off it would be easier this way and to be able to keep remote gain, however Simply if your reading please still send me the gizmo incase this theory is not possible, thanks bud
                        Last edited by Sqwidge; 02-08-2009, 10:26 PM.
                        Nik.

                        Before you ask:

                        About 2 miles
                        Over £500
                        Very difficult
                        Over 80mph
                        NO, you can't have a go



                        Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

                        RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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                        • #13
                          just a program selector ie Normal mode / Idle 1 / idle 2. Its not a channel
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                          • #14
                            Remember that airwolf wasnt actually black and white - there was a great web site I found that had good images etc from the actual helicopter and the modifications they did to it to make it airwolf...

                            The top colour was a DuPont paint, phantom gray effect. Apparently it is a dark charcoal gray with a slight green traces, charcoal gray used on Mazdas and Hondas. The bottom color is gray with blue traces, just "off" enough not to be white
                            Rob


                            T-Rex 450 Pro - BeastX v3 FBL, Hitec 5065's, DS520, Futaba R6203SB
                            Quad x-copter - KK 5.5 Multicopter v4.7, 850KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, Carbon & Alu frame, LED strips for orientation, 10x4.5 props.
                            Quad x-copter - KK Plus 5.5d, 1000KVA motors, 30A ESC's, Orange RC FASST Rx, GF & Alu frame, LED strips, 10x4.5 props (coming soon!)
                            Futaba 9CP & 10CG

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                            • #15
                              dont have idle 2 but point is there must be a signal going to somewhere to make motor stay at constant speed, why could i not utilise this for retracts? or utilise throttle cut button once discon from engine side as i dont use it anyway i just use throttle hold
                              Nik.

                              Before you ask:

                              About 2 miles
                              Over £500
                              Very difficult
                              Over 80mph
                              NO, you can't have a go



                              Don't forget the 'Search' and 'Thanks' buttons.

                              RIP Anthony 'Tinny' Lombardi (25195517)

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