Pheonix Scale vs Electric - Learning curves

[chally3]

As a newbie, I am putting the time in on the sim with the occasional bit of hover & hop around the garden. But I have noticed on Pheonix, I can fly the Scale helis quite confidently, hovering nose/tail in etc,lazy 8's - but once I hit the Blade 400 as thats what I have, My control level drops a little (obviously due to characteristics of the actual heli)

Do you think this will effect my actual learning curve flying the scales on Pheonix(Do enjoy this) or should I stick to learing on the Blade.

Just thought I ask the question

cheerz
Mark

[Astronobaldo]

My option about simulator.

Well mate, I'm a beginner too so I might not be the right person to comment on that but I think simulators (I'm using RealFlight at the moment) are great!!!

I use simulator a lot and I'm sure I can only do stuff on my blade because I tried again and again on the simulator. It helps me to get to improve my skill, also to learn what happens when I don't make the right thing.

For example, when I tried my first forward flight I crashed. I couldn't quite figure out what happened then I used the simulator and found out what I've done wrong ... I corrected and tried again on my heli. It worked!

Also, in my case the simulator helps me to get more confidence on recovering from a mistake ... so when I'm flying my Blade 400 and I make a mistake ... I don't panic and most of the cases I can recover it from crashing (another example, on my last flight I tried nose-in and something went wrong but because I have tried again and again on the simulator I didn't panic and just turn the heli back to tail-in avoiding the crash).

I've never used Phoenix before but I suppose you need to find out a model which is similar to your real heli (on my case, I tried to use the Blade 400 but it is not quite my heli, then now I'm using the T-rex 500 model on my simulator ... I think that is closer to my real Blade 400)

I hope it helps.

Cheers,

[DIJ]

I would use a larger heli in Phoenix to begin with, and then start using the smaller ones as you progress. It's hard enough learning to coordinate stick movements and orientation when you start out, without beating yourself up with a small, and hard to control heli.

Its more important to put lots of sim time in, rather than which particular heli you choose.

[Tom Burgess]

That is probably because the tail will follow you on one of the scale helis. on the blade it will be locked in.

[chemicalbro]

the advantages of sim time can't be understated.
more stick time, either real or simulated will only improve your flying.
even if its not 100% realistic it is still training your brain on how to move the sticks in a given situation. (i've no idea just how many real life crashes and money its saved me from but its been a few i can tell ya, way more than the 80 quid i paid for phoenix thats for sure )

[Si Goodchild]

I find that the small helis are more difficult to control in Phoenix than real life. The 50-size nitro helis are much more realistic.

[chemicalbro]

yeah i'll second that.
the rex 450 on phoenix is a wee bitch

[chally3]

thanks for your input, just wondered why I found it easier to control the scale models (thats just the kid in me being Stringfellow Hawk I guess!!)

I'll try the bigger helis on there now