January Help

[HeliNoobie]

Thank you all for your help in my post when i joined , i have recently been playing with pheonix and have realised exactly how easy it is to pile several hundreds of pounds of equipment, Hopefully with practice this should become less frequent.

In january i am to start my first major heli build and also join a club , i dont know whether or not to go nitro or electric or 50/90 but im hoping if i post my wants someone may come up with a good solution.

1) Something that can be flown on most days (i hear the bigger the better in this case)

2) Fairly easy to transport in a car,

3) Stable and fairly easy for a begginer.

Might i add this heli will not be for 3D at all , maybe the odd barrel roll or inverted but never hard 3d as it will be going scale

My plan is to build a heli and learn to fly it pod and boom as suggested to me earlier and then eventually turn it scale (once im confident enough). I will be joining a club and maybe even take some lessons but i dont have any idea where to start with a bigger heli. Currently i have a GL450SE V2 with full CNC head and tail and 2 lipo packs i am currently looking to upgrade my servo's to something with abit more reliability but i really want something much bigger for club use. now do i stay electric or do i go nitro?

and the question that plagues me most , where the hell do i start with a list to everything i need. I have been trying to look around and research myself but i cant for the life of me work it out.

I know i need:-

The heli kit of choice (obviously)
4 Servos + Gyro
Engine + Exhaust / Motor
Reciever and Transmitter

this is as far as iv gotten, as you can see im a complete n00b

[Made2Fade]

The main things:-
Model of choice
Main Blades (not all kits come with main blades)
4 servos for CCPM/throttle (3 if going electric)
Gyro and tail servo
Transmitter
Receiver
Receiver pack/flight pack batteries
Engine and pipe/motor & ESC
All starting equipment (starter and hex wand, glow plug adapter, gel cel battery or lipo battery for cordless starting,possibly a powerpanel, glow plug wrench)
Flightbox/Transmitter case
Fuel
Extras/accessories:-
Hex/screw driver set, ball link pliers, ball link adjusters, digital verniers, after run oil, grease, loktite, C/A, anerobics retainer.

Best thing to do is look at what they have at the club. If your going down the nitro route then id recommend a raptor 50 V3 Titan, Trex 600 NSP or something round there abouts. Its probably what most guys fly at the typical club. You'll never be short of help with either of them models thats for sure. If your going electric then id recommend a trex 500/600E. Again for electric helis you wont be short of info on them 2 either. There are plenty other helicopters out on the market that people will say are better. I would have suggested a Knight 3D but you have already said you dont want to do 3D and you will be going scale. Therefore suggesting that or any other models is pointless IMO. Most pod and boom models these days are specifically aimed at the 3d market. There however is some good sports models out there too. Im sure people will suggest a few more very soon
Cheers
Lee

[Disc]

Thank you all for your help in my post when i joined , i have recently been playing with pheonix and have realised exactly how easy it is to pile several hundreds of pounds of equipment, Hopefully with practice this should become less frequent.

In january i am to start my first major heli build and also join a club , i dont know whether or not to go nitro or electric or 50/90 but im hoping if i post my wants someone may come up with a good solution.

1) Something that can be flown on most days (i hear the bigger the better in this case)

2) Fairly easy to transport in a car,

3) Stable and fairly easy for a begginer.

Might i add this heli will not be for 3D at all , maybe the odd barrel roll or inverted but never hard 3d as it will be going scale

My plan is to build a heli and learn to fly it pod and boom as suggested to me earlier and then eventually turn it scale (once im confident enough). I will be joining a club and maybe even take some lessons but i dont have any idea where to start with a bigger heli. Currently i have a GL450SE V2 with full CNC head and tail and 2 lipo packs i am currently looking to upgrade my servo's to something with abit more reliability but i really want something much bigger for club use. now do i stay electric or do i go nitro?

and the question that plagues me most , where the hell do i start with a list to everything i need. I have been trying to look around and research myself but i cant for the life of me work it out.

I know i need:-

The heli kit of choice (obviously)
4 Servos + Gyro
Engine + Exhaust / Motor
Reciever and Transmitter

this is as far as iv gotten, as you can see im a complete n00b

I'd recommend T-rex 600e

401 and 9254 tail servo

Futaba 3152's on CCPM or futaba 3050's

Radio Futaba 10c comes with 3152's as well x4 if you buy the set, with a 2.4 receiver.


JP carbons main to start with cheap enough or T.T mains, NHP tail blades the kit ones are pants.

Then 2-3 good batterys and a good charger and you'd be set up


I would PM Wheels (Wayne) and he can give you better advice than us on this, he tryed nitro and had issues and he loves his 600e. I'll go no further here but PM him

[richieclarkie]

I would Strongly discourage you to consider electric 50 size as it's costly and flight times are fairly short. The main advantage with a nitro is you can go down the field and fly all day providing you have a decent RX battery. With electric to fly all day you would need at least 4 packs and a lorry sized battery in your boot. larger electrics are great second helis though.

Do not be tempted to buy a 90 at your stage of flying. Cost is much more in fuel and parts.

If you are joining a club and want to get some reasonable stick time with your heli then get a TREX 600Nitro Super Pro package or a Knight 3D. Either helis will be great to learn with, need no upgrading and parts are easily obtainable.

Currently the Knight is very good value as TREX prices have increased (up £100!) and the Knight hasn't
http://www.evorc.com/product.php/314...ll-jan-04-2009

Whatever the case I would kit the heli out with:
Transmitter DX7 - I've used one for 2 years and love it.
Engine OS50 Hyper - Muscle Pipe 5
Cyclic and Throttle Servos Futaba 3152s on cyclic and Throttle(maybe the Align ones but I don't know much about them)
Gyro - Spartan 760 or Futaba 401 (in order of preference)
Tail servo - Futaba BLS 251 or Futaba 9254 (in order of preference)
I would suggest trying to obtain the best gyro and tail servo you can afford but the 401 will be fine too.

If there's an option to get lessons from a well known instructor then you will benefit greatly I'm sure. However it may be that within the club you joing you get enough support to minimise the need for lessons, particulalrly as you clearly have experience on the sim and with the 450. Flying a 50 will seem a breeze

Good luck.

[Made2Fade]

The gear Richie has pointed out would be exactly what id recommend you put in which ever heli you decide to go for. Buy once buy right is the motto round here. So get the stuff thats stated first in his list Dont make things harder than they already are by buying cheaper gear. Its hard enough to fly these beasts without having to struggle fighting a gyro for example. Nitro over electric any day of the week. Packs cost a fortune and you dont get as long flight times. Its also another thing you have to keep an eye on as you cant just fly these lipos until their dead, then go charge and fly again. Its a little more complicated than that.

Cheers
Lee