Align Trex 760x TOP

[cjm180]

Hey

I saw this over at HF. I cant see if for sale in the UK and I have not seen it anywhere else so I guess its new.

Looks nice, interesting on the 3 bladed tail. Surely it would of been easier to adjust the gearing? Unless it wouldn't work. I think there is a real market for this size of helicopter. a little smaller than the 800, but bigger than the 700.

[TSK UK]

They have a F3C model with fuz as well.

[coolice]

Hey buddy.

I think the main idea behind the 3 bladed tail is to give the same tail authority at the lower head speeds this size of model and discipline it's aimed at (F3C).
Also remember the tail buzz/hum problem the 700's had at high tail rpms, so running the tail slower is a good thing.

Ian

[cjm180]

They really need to give some gearing options with these. It would solve a lot of issues for people wanting to run lower head speeds. Other than that it looks good.

[Grumpy]

Your right Craig, the Trex helis are designed around the 'super combo' setup but dont provide much options in the way of catering for alternate setups. There are two alternative main gear/pinion gear raios but according to the spec this is already using the lower of the two. The fixed motor mount is the biggest issue.

Having said that, the stock setup works great for most people the fixed motor keeps things simple..

[DaveG]

It looks like they have just stretched the 700, the boom looks rather spindly and weak for its size. A bit of a bitsa with the two blade head and three blade tail.

Align have zero innovation right now, they have done nothing but copy others which rings true again with them copying SAB/Synergy with the 770/766 class of helicopter.

[bigpops]

While I agree that their chosen model sizes tend to match what's already on the market, what exactly are they expected to do?
Let's take the 380 as an example:

Company X has a 380mm model. They don't have one, just a 360mm model which was already using a lot of parts from a 325mm model.

Should they:
a) continue with their 360mm model, which will probably suffer lower sales as a result of company X's 380mm model
b) put out a 380mm model of their own and try to take a share of the market

Where one leads, the others follow, no matter who the one leading is.

[DaveG]

While i agree Los the the lead and follow principle, same as others following align back when they released a new size of helicopter. I think align would be much better off redesigning some of the existing models rather than just keep giving them a different paint job and calling them pro/super pro/top/x/limited edition/dfc/etc...etc...etc...

Why don't the design a completely new 600 nitro? A completely new 700 nitro (the current one is hideous) why not a 550 high power 50 nitro which nobody except gaui do with the nx4? The 450 still shares much of its arts with the original 450 and by today's standard is sall and weak, why not resign this to be chunkier and use standard size balls and links?

They should copy the others with the stupid belt drives and stupid slanted forward undercarriage skids!

Align stop it!! Just make something original and good for a change! Fire up the hobby like you did with the original 600n and 700n!

Rant over!

[electricsceadu]

whilst you are discussing new models Hirobo has a new 550 electric model, I don't know if its in retail production yet

[bigpops]

While i agree Los the the lead and follow principle, same as others following align back when they released a new size of helicopter. I think align would be much better off redesigning some of the existing models rather than just keep giving them a different paint job and calling them pro/super pro/top/x/limited edition/dfc/etc...etc...etc...

Why don't the design a completely new 600 nitro? A completely new 700 nitro (the current one is hideous) why not a 550 high power 50 nitro which nobody except gaui do with the nx4? The 450 still shares much of its arts with the original 450 and by today's standard is sall and weak, why not resign this to be chunkier and use standard size balls and links?

They should copy the others with the stupid belt drives and stupid slanted forward undercarriage skids!

Align stop it!! Just make something original and good for a change! Fire up the hobby like you did with the original 600n and 700n!

Rant over!

Well, I like the angled skids. They're long over due and very useful if you aren't lucky enough to have a well kept flying field.

I agree the Nitros do need an update. To think the Trex 600N is practically the same model that came out over a decade ago is quite astonishing. They keep on selling though. The only remaining nitro lover in my club just bought a new one at Christmas. It's still in the box like, but they're still selling.

[ChrisB]

And their 600 (PRO/EFL PRO/DOMINATOR) is an apalling 600 thats crying out for a decent design(AND TAIL RATIO!!!)

[coolice]

They really need to give some gearing options with these. It would solve a lot of issues for people wanting to run lower head speeds. Other than that it looks good.

Morning mate.

Im not so sure there is a pressing need really, as there is only so far you can run a 2 bladed FBL setup to before it doesn't feel good. Plus for anything spirited you need a higher head speed and automatically get a better tail speed to.
In all honesty who needs that amount of adjustability in a model?
Really and truly thinking about it, it's only the F3C guys that need multiple options to fine tune accordingly to style.
3d is simple in that most run a high head speed anyway and thus a higher tail speed dictated by the gearing, but they want that for tail authority.

Grumpy is correct in his last paragraph I think, the Align models work for the majority of buyers which just want to fly.

I'll agree some models in the range need a little more thought, as mentioned above the 600EFL's tail ratio is bad, as you know on yours, you have to run the head speed high to get a decent tail speed. Same applies to the 550 that uses the same gears.

Ian

[Grumpy]

I hear Align getting stick for lack of innovation constantly, but in my opinion they aren't any worse than most of the other heli manufacturers out there right now. Anyone who argues different please list the genuinely innovative helis that have been released in the last 5 years (and what feature makes them innovative)? I'll have a go to get the ball rolling

• Velos 880 (twin motor drive)
• SAB 280 (direct drive )
• Compass Exo (carbon monocoque)

And that's about it as far as I can think of that are available or you can pre-order. And no, i dont call releasing a heli that has a size that falls between existing heli classes 'innovative', it's just a slightly different size heli. SAB have probably been the most innovative heli manufacturer of recent times but even with them most of their recent releases have just been minor tweaks of previous models, in fact in recent years they have probably been the worst offender on that charge.

RC helis are a pretty mature technology so you cant really expect regular major new developments.

[Grumpy]

And their 600 (PRO/EFL PRO/DOMINATOR) is an apalling 600 thats crying out for a decent design(AND TAIL RATIO!!!)

I have one and actually i really like it, even against the much more expensive helis in my fleet. I did a mild stretch so i could fit 626mm main blades and to fix the tail 105mm tail blades... It goes great now, no need for screaming headspeeds and it was very cheap to modify. But yeah, I agree the basic design could be improved but I think Align aren't wanting to throw much development at the 600 class as it seems to be out of favour, most people looking for a large 12S powered heli get a 700.

[ChrisB]

I dont understand why they just didnt design the 550 Dominator with slider rails to accept 12s config as well as just 6s so you could config it as a 550 or 600 with relevent boom etc as its a much better design and has wider frames for better lipo options.

While their at it,adjustable motor mount and tail ratio options.