blade 230s settings with dx9

[trexamanic]

completely stumped trying to follow the settings in the booklet.
cannot get switches to do what is asked?

anyone else having issues or have worked it out?
Thanks in advance

[berley114]

Hi i recently set up a pal's 230 for him, i think the area you are talking about is this?
In the Main Screen scroll to ; SYSTEM SETUP (click) YES now scroll to Flight Mode Setup, ensure your switch 1: =(sw) B. Switch 2: = Inhibit.
also that your Hold Switch:= H (or what ever Sw you use for your Hold, i use G as my H is my Bailout button in my spirit FBL)
Go to List & (click)
Now scroll to Channel Assign (Rx Port Assignments) check that CH5 GEAR=Gear. also that CH7 AUX2=Aux2. then (click) Next,
Now u should be in Channel Input Config… now make CH5 Gear = (SW) B & CH7 Aux2= (SW) I . (Switch I is the Bind button that blade use as the bailout)

I hope this is helpful, if it is the area you was having problems with ……..these settings worked perfectly for us, please be sure that the settings are ok for u before flight.

Just for info;
My pals 230 is great it flies very well including 3D but, in the "normal" mode (safe mode) the swash tilts right and Fwd after initialisation (Not Normal as the swash should stay level), i flew it 1st which was a handful at initial lift off and it wanders right & fwd in the hover, in IU1 & IU2 it is just fine swash stays level. HH has told him to do the Trim flight which should sort out the problem if not, he will return it to HH.
Check out the HF forum ref Swash deviation, plenty of info on there. Not all 230's have this defect yours maybe just fine out of the box.

[Peteski]

Just for info;
My pals 230 is great it flies very well including 3D but, in the "normal" mode (safe mode) the swash tilts right and Fwd after initialisation (Not Normal as the swash should stay level), i flew it 1st which was a handful at initial lift off and it wanders right & fwd in the hover, in IU1 & IU2 it is just fine swash stays level. HH has told him to do the Trim flight which should sort out the problem if not, he will return it to HH.
Check out the HF forum ref Swash deviation, plenty of info on there. Not all 230's have this defect yours maybe just fine out of the box.

That just sounds like the artificial horizon (not the swash itself) needs trimming for SAFE mode. Not sure how you do that with the 230S, but I'm sure it would be simple.

[mahbouni]

Just for info;
My pals 230 is great it flies very well including 3D but, in the "normal" mode (safe mode) the swash tilts right and Fwd after initialisation (Not Normal as the swash should stay level), i flew it 1st which was a handful at initial lift off and it wanders right & fwd in the hover, in IU1 & IU2 it is just fine swash stays level. HH has told him to do the Trim flight which should sort out the problem if not, he will return it to HH.
Check out the HF forum ref Swash deviation, plenty of info on there. Not all 230's have this defect yours maybe just fine out of the box.

How does throttle % make any difference to swash plate?

[Peteski]

How does throttle % make any difference to swash plate?

I don't think anyone said it did?? He was just talking about SAFE mode, which affects the way the swash moves.

[mahbouni]

But why is there a difference between normal and idle up?

[Peteski]

But why is there a difference between normal and idle up?

I'm not sure how the 230S is set up, but from what bereley114 said above I presume normal mode has SAFE mode switched on as default. Anyway it was SAFE mode he was referring to, regardless of what throttle curve is used in normal mode or IU1. The throttle has nothing to do with how SAFE mode works.

[trexamanic]

when i was buying from midland helicopters. they had stoppped sales on an entire batch as there was an issue with drifting. they informed me that they had personally set up almost every model in the box and nearly all had this drift. They took them off sale until an email from the states. I think the dift issue is the least of my problems. i shall try the suggested settings from berley114 then take it from there. i already have a link to a hh video explaining how to trim out the drift i i indeed have any.
here is the trim video

[mahbouni]

I would bet if they gave a few beta versions to ordinary pilots who would actually use SAFE mode, this would have have been discovered before release and resulted in less egg on face.

[trexamanic]

I would bet if they gave a few beta versions to ordinary pilots who would actually use SAFE mode, this would have have been discovered before release and resulted in less egg on face.

retailers i feel sorry for and also those that crashed then could not return

[mahbouni]

retailers i feel sorry for and also those that crashed then could not return

Yes it's a pity retailers get the brunt of it

[Peteski]

I guess they should have made it clear that it NEEDS a trim flight to set the artificial horizon for SAFE mode. I suppose they skipped this step in the factory setup.

[berley114]

I am waiting for the weather to change…. if thats possible, i need a day with little or no wind to do the trim flight for my Pal's 230S and see if this cures the swash levelling in SAFE MODE problem, i have seen it has taken some times 2 or 3 flights to get this set but also, some the problem has been cleared and some have had the swash tilt problem return… anyway, i guess we will see soon.

Just to explain again; the first day out of the box the 230 after all the TX programming & Binding was complete;With Tx switched On… connected the lipo & wait Initialisation…. swash twitches & Esc's beep, 230 Ready…. swash then starts to tilt full Right & Full nose Down Elev. Thats where it stays and when corrected with the Cyclic… it returns to the un level condition.
When the Main blades are spinning for lift off, it takes a few corrections with the cyclic to lift off without the hell rolling into the ground. IU1 & IU2 are perfect… swash stays level so, one can lift off in IU1 to get around the problem…. not good for a new heli or a newbie.

With the motors disconnected, power up in Normal (safe mode) after Initialisation the swash goes full tilt Right & Fwd, if switched to IU1 & IU2 swash moves to level, switch back to normal then the swash moves back to full tilt.

Not sure if this is any clearer but maybe helpful to other owners.

[Peteski]

I wonder if this is an oversight on Blade's part. With BeastX Pro self-level/rescue it specifically says in the user manual NEVER to use it on take-off or landing for this very reason. If the heli is not sitting on perfectly level ground and self-level is switched on then the FBL tries to level the heli by counter steering with the swash. It sounds like the 230S does exactly this, the Horizon guy even mentions it in the video. I guess if you have trimmed the self-level and you are taking off on level ground, the mismatch should be small, but even so the swash could still drift right over as it fails to correct even a small error.

Just to compound the tilting issue on take-off, when you trim the artificial horizon to hover without drift, the heli will actually be leaning slightly to the right to counter the tail rotor. So the artificial horizon will be set on a slight angle and not perfectly level to the skids. Again in the BeastX Pro user manual it talks about this potential issue. So when you go to take off, the self-levelling system will already be trying to tilt the heli to the right to match its offset artificial horizon.

If I had a 230S I would always take off with SAFE mode (self-level) switched off and then switch it on in flight once safely off the ground. Not ideal for a beginner, but should be manageable if they stay calm! The alternative is to pop it quickly off the ground so the self-level can work properly, but again that's not exactly ideal for a beginner.

[berley114]

This evening was good for a trim flight, Used x3 lipos made about 5 separate Trim flights as per the manual… no change. Swash still goes Tilt and hell has a hard drift that has to be corrected. Back to Horizon for this 230s.

For those who do not have a 230s or a manual, some info below taken from the manual that may help.

Flight Mode Switch
0 = Stability Mode (NORM) (not from the manual; SAFE MODE is a built in software, cannot be turned off)
1 = Intermediate Mode (FM1)
2 = Agility Mode (FM2)



Flight Mode and Rate Selection
In Stability Mode the bank angle is limited. When the
cyclic stick is released the model will return to level.