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  • buying choice progress... down to 2! (and a question for gaui x5 fes owners)

    None of you probably care but some of you might like to know the thought process that I put into my choice of model.

    As I have said previously, thanks to flybarless the choice is a lot "easier" (although that actually makes it harder as the differences are more subtle!)

    So my initial narrow down the field was due to the location im likely to be flying. Slades farm is a recognised site but it is a busy public site with lots of dog walkers, skate park with kids, cyclists etc milling around. I have flown there fairly recently with a discus launch glider and have seen others flying there too but, flying on your own means you do not have the presence to keep by standards away from your invisible flight line or somebody to tell you when people are walking around nearby.

    So I set the limit of 550 preferably 500mm blades. They are smaller, less likely to attract attention etc.

    So this let me to the next step, 4 models immediately come to mind

    align,
    logo,
    goblin,
    gaui.

    anybody that knows me, knows align is not an option.

    I have had a good look over a couple of goblins now and whilst its nice its just a little unconventional for me, The boom is nice but expensive and the servos being flat on their side and being non standard size servos makes the engineer in me cringe, the load should never be across the servo like that, Putting form before function is a bad thing. Not saying its a bad model, The layout works and the flybarless makes up for it but that doesn't stop me cringing :-)

    So that leaves us with the logo 500 and the gaui x5

    There is no doubting the logos are awesome models. I love the belt drive tail. They fly great, spares aren't too bad but it is really a 550 so on the upper limit of the size.

    the gaui is I think a slightly better layout, Battery up higher should result in a higher CG. I like that the motor/lower mainshaft bearing/tail drive/front boom mount are in one block, this makes for a stiffer more stable drive train which increases efficiency and gears being stripped.

    question for gaui owners, its hard to see from the videos/pictures. what joins the top mainshaft bearing to the bottom mainshaft bearing. Is it just the frames or is there a stiffener in there?

    basically there is nothing in it. It is going to come down deciding if i want belt or tube tail drive to cost!

    Servos Im going futaba brushless, spartan vortex to keep it all tied down.

    Optipower batteries seem to be the current (pun intended) must have, does anybody have opinions/experience with others?

    thanks,

    Ade
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  • #2
    Don't have one myself but you could download the manual and see for yourself how it's assembled.

    http://blog.flying-hobby.com/wp-cont...nualV1.2.2.pdf

    Hope this helps

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    • #3
      Hi Ade,

      There is no stiffener between the upper/lower block, and honestly with such narrow frames I don't think is required,
      the only common upgrade to have a look is the frame stiffeners and battery tray/motor protection,
      the latest will allow you to place the lipo against the "cage" without the worry of the lipo wires and motor to meet
      in my view this is a plus and will give me the CG always accurate when placing the lipos.

      I fly Gens ace 4000mah 25 or 30C and they are indeed very good lipos, they fit perfectly under both "FES" and "Formula" canopies and are light as well, plenty of punch with the 25C's and always cool when landing. 520mm edge blades and around 2200rpm with the stock 910kv motor.

      The heli is very light and well build.
      I will try to meet you up on the next session with Phil and you can have a closer look (obviously if you hold your decision by then).
      Lann-ding...

      Goblin 700/ Logo 700/600 /700X/ Synergy 516/ Diabolo 550
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      SouthHantsHelis

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      • #4
        Thanks pepper that would be great!

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        • #5
          There is also the KDS 5.5 that's coming out soon if it isn't already. Not very main stream, but they seem to be popular here atm. There is also talk of ALeeS doing a 550/600 but that's all rumours so you can't really count on that yet.

          I know you said ALIGN is a no go, but if I were in the market for a 550, it would either be the ALIGN or the Goblin for me I reckon

          I can't fly 1% to the level I've seen you fly in videos so it's less critical what I go for

          Not sure what your budget is, but Haiyin packs seem to be doing very well. They out performed many of the more expensive Gens Ace in test, but as above, I'm not a smack 3D pilot yet so I don't need every ounce of power so I don't need to go for the more pricey packs.
          Harry

          Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
          Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
          SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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          • #6
            How about the Logo 480?

            Runs 470 blades or is that going too small.

            Good luck with your choice,either of your options will be a great heli for sure.

            Im glad you got a good flight with one of Phils and have got the flying bug back.
            Last edited by ChrisB; 15-12-2013, 12:52 PM.

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            • #7
              Great to see your commiting to getting back to flying status again Ade.
              Pleased you managed to get a flight in with Phil too .It was Phil that got me into heli"s when i met him at slades farm a few years back now .
              I do sometimes pop to slades farm to test things out as its at the end of my rd.So may see you there .

              I dont know about the x5 but have seen many Logo"s in past years and dont recall a bad word said about them.
              Maybee the new Logo 480 as Chris has said would be worth considering.
              Also the Gens Ace packs i have seen definatly perform very well for the money so if on a budget like most of us are they would be a good choice.

              Hope that helps a bit.I know a lot has changed since you last flew on a regular basis mate.

              Hope to see you again soon.

              a,t,b

              Ian
              Last edited by chopper1; 15-12-2013, 02:48 PM.

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              • #8
                Have the X5 and the Agile 5.5 although the latter is currently being built.

                The X5 is a great little heli and it felt light and small in the air. The quality is ok but nothing to shout about. The Agile 5.5 quality is superb but I have no idea how it flys. If its anything like the 7.2 then it will rock

                http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/new-em...5-5-build.html
                + 7 x Eddies finest EGS's


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