Is it piroflps I`m doing?

[waqr]

Hi!

I struggle really bad with my piroflips. I have practiced them for a few weeks now but I don`t seem to get them right. Please find a short video from my Phoenix training session. Some questions:

1) Is it piroflips that I am doing?
2) If not what do I need to do in order to do the piroflips correct?

At the moment it feels like I will never get the hang of this. Please give me som encouragement

http://youtu.be/NmUIeiSesaQ

[KevDavies]

Yep theyre piro flips, the only difference is your not finishing the flip and rotation properly before you go over again.

Try to break it down in halfs and stop when the blades are level with the ground and the tail is back towards you. And when you can do perfect half flips stopping with the tail towards you and the blades horizontal just join them together.

PS. your doing better than me at the mo!! I know the theory my fingers just wont work the sticks properly LOL

[johnsandywhite]

Looks like you are almost there. You are doing half Piro flips together. Perhaps MORE Piro before flip? As Kev says, flip when the tail is towards you.

[tonystevens]

you can flip with the tail wherever you want, paul at our club starts his nose in, looks a little strange but it a piroflip all the same. try and keep your piro going at a constant speed, I noticed tou weren't timing your stir with the speed of the tail, might be easier for you to go full rudder then you have a consistent tail speed

[AcidDrink]

Re: Is it piroflps I`m doing?

Yes these are continuous half piroflips. I'd keep doing them as you do, it's very good practice, except you are using too much collective and heli is flip flopping up and down.
For full piroflips, half pirouette to a stationary position upside down and continue the piro without flipping while keeping the heli stationary - no flipping just keep stationary inverted piro. Then half piro flip to right side up and stationary piro a couple of times in place. The rest will come naturally.
Please don't rely on "timing", "stir" etc. just fly the heli through maneuver, like you do now.

[SamS]

They're not full piroflips, they half piroflips. You want the tail to make a full rotation before you flip it over.

[waqr]

Thanks for all comments.

Still struggling but did some new attempts this evening in Phoenix. I think it is really hard to see how many rotations the tail is doing. Is this also just half piroflips or is this attempt better then the first video?

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