Another stupid question..

[martin_b]

OK the story so far.. I've bought an Aurora A9 and Phoenix, and I've been practicing diligently. What I've discovered is that its a damn sight harder than it looks!
I made what I assume is the classic mistake of starting off on the Sim with a 500 size CP heli, now if it were real it would have got very expensive very quickly. However I learnt my lesson and I'm now on Co-Axials and Quads.
My problem is realistic as the Sim' is I'd still rather be outdoor, practicing in the sunshine, so what do I buy?

Can i get a co-axial that will work with my A9? I understand this is a good starting point on the road to the CP big boys? or should I get a Quad, which I fancy, for the video possibilities and ease of repair, but then will i learn anything relevant so I can then graduate onto CP Heli's?

cheers

martin

[Andy_Ran]

I would personally go back to the full collective pitch helis on Phoenix. I made the mistake of getting a coax heli and wasted money doing so.

They fly nothing like a cp heli, and if that's your end game, stick with it until you can easily take off, hold a hover and land. The. Turn the realism up until its second nature.

Then get a 450 or try for real. You may find flying a 700 size heli easier on the sim too

[Stuart]

personally stick with the 500 size I also remember there was a training heli for the sim with training gear. I havent used phoenix in a while in the settings slow down the sim speed just a little then also use the training function and get used to one input at a time.... once you've sussed the controls responses retune back to normal speed.

[NoFixedAbode]

Re: Another stupid question..

To my mind no classic mistake. The model you fly or the sim for that matter is irrelevant...it's the basic controls and orientation your are learning.

I started with a raptor 50. But if I was starting now trex 500 would be weapon of choice.

Co-axs are toys btw save your money.

[dave j]

I started off with a raptor 30 and never looked back i still have the heli to this day, they fly very stable, but if i can give advice it would be to find a club near to where you live and take as much advice as you can

[franky975]

I personally would not get into coax or fp helis. I started on the sim with whatever felt easier to keep in control as the sim is to learn the orientation and control until you can just watch the heli and your thumbs doing they job without to think on it. The coax/fp/quad needs slightly different control to fly so you can build up wrong habits. Later when you can fly collective helis you can fly the others too. If you buy a heli the bigger is more stable but cost more to fix/maintain. A local club also a good help too as someone can check your heli or give you advise when you need it.

[helimadness]

My first real heli was a Trex 500 EFL Pro 18 months ago. Has been fantastic and taken me a long way. Still have it and no plans to replace. Flys great and not so expensive to fix. Only really had 4-5 crashes over that time. (one mechanical failure)
Would happily do the same again.

[Bell47G]

Anything 450 upwards is the best to start. Coaxial last a very short time you will want bigger.
Blade Helis cheap and cheerful crash ability very good & cheap repair bills.

[cjcj1949]

There's a lot posted on this. I found the msr very good. The msr-x is better for outdoors. The wind is the real problem. If you can fly indoors the msr is great and almost indestructible. I would go with that and then graduate to a 130-X in light winds and over grass. So long as you land with zero throttle (from throttle hold) it survives very well.
It does depend on you, the 130-X is very good outdoors, but things happen very quickly. The bigger the heli the easier to fly, apart from the stress/cost factor, which makes things more difficult. A 450 or bigger seems very dangerous until you get used to it. Then it seems easy, safe and predictable. First impressions are often correct. In terms of basic upright flight I don't find much difference between fixed and collective.