Thinking of buying a Teryx 450 co-axial

[Silverking]

I am new to the Forum and already found some great information. My first heli was a Blade Scout which I still enjoy flying; followed this with an mCX2 hooked to a DX6i, the latter came as part of the Phoenix simulator. I can pretty much push the mCX2 to its limit even with custom rate settings so I was looking for something a bit more challenging and, with summer hopefully around the corner, to fly outside. Now I am not sure if it is me but having played with various models on the sim I am finding anything other than a co-axial almost impossible to fly. After a great deal of research I came up with two options - buy an mSR X (which I can almost fly in the sim, and persevere) or go for a big co-axial e.g. the Blade CX4. The company I alighted upon though is Skyrush who produce several 450 co-axials under the Teryx family. They are big but easy to fly and can be upgraded to do a lot more with a swap of swashplate.

These look to be fascinating machines (especially the Sikorsky X2) and the MD500 or Barebone are very appealing. These seem to be rare birds and made to a high standard so does anyone have experience of them or is going down the co-axial route a blind alley? TERYX 450 - Coaxial

[Boggy]

Welcome to the forum
I've had no experience of the heli you've mentioned but if your looking for a heli to fly outdoors then You should really try and move on from co'axial, they will not handle any kind of wind.( what you may think is a nice still evening will see your co ax flying off into the distance once above the height of the garden fence.)

maybe look at a blade sr120 fixed pitch if your not confident with a collective pitch yet. ( a few more hours on the sim however will suddenly bring you the eureka moment and youll wonder what all the fuss was about ,and want your first large heli,then you become a true heliaddict. )

[KevDavies]

Correct once the bug bites there is actually no going back, It only leads to heartbreak and financial ruin. And we LOVE it!! There is no better feeling than watching your heli do aerobatics and thinking, "Thats me that is!"

[electricsceadu]

Correct once the bug bites there is actually no going back, It only leads to heartbreak and financial ruin. And we LOVE it!! There is no better feeling than watching your heli do aerobatics and thinking, "Thats me that is!"

its when your thinking thats not me it hurts the wallet

[KevDavies]

its when your thinking thats not me it hurts the wallet

I thought that twice this weekend. Cost me £400

[Silverking]

So I assume no one has any experience of Teryx? Their X2 is wildly innovate with the heli changing to auto-gyro mode but as a beginner it is way beyond my skills once the tail motor is activated - that thing is fast.

I have once again visited the sim and I am doing quite well on the mSR X and the big SR so maybe that is where I will go next. Although after corresponding with Ingo at Skyrush he makes a compelling argument for the big co-axials. I love anything that is off centre so maybe I will consider a Teryx just because it seems to fly (no pun intended) in the face of what people expect.

[KevDavies]

The biggest problem your gonna come against with the Teryx is the complete lack of spares in the UK. Im not saying its a bad heli. from what I can tell it is very good for a co - axial. However you need to decide what you want from the hobby. If you ever intend to fly anywhere other than indoors or perfectly still days, then a co-ax will suit you fine if all you want to do is hover and slow circuits.

The heli with the pusher prop is a pure gimmick, you would have little to no control of that whilst that prop is spinning.

The blade helis that you currently own are absolutely ideal for learning on. The obvious progression from here on in is to go to a single rotor heli and then collective pitch heli, going co-axial is a step backwards unless all you ever want to do is hover.

You are not wrong in saying that you like off centre products and ideas, so do I and im probably the most controversial bloke on her, but my advice to yourself is forget the co-ax and start looking at single rotor craft.
The whole envelope of flying a helicopter is available from there in, ranging fron just flying around to advanced aerobatics that make your mind boggle.

My suggestion as your next helicopter would be a Blade Mcpx or similar, if you wanted to stay small, or if you wanted to go a bit larger, the Blade 450x or the Align Trex 450.

If you need any help just ask us, we've all been where you are now and we know how difficult learning is. We can bestow adviceusing where we went wrong and try to help you from wasting as much money as we did

Best regards
Kev

[Boggy]

As above. So many guys make these first posts

ask for advice then buy the stuff anyhoo! ( I assume this Ingo guy is the skyrush proprietor/ salesman?)

[tomatwalden]

Thinking of buying a Teryx 450 co-axial

So I assume no one has any experience of Teryx? Their X2 is wildly innovate with the heli changing to auto-gyro mode but as a beginner it is way beyond my skills once the tail motor is activated - that thing is fast.

I have once again visited the sim and I am doing quite well on the mSR X and the big SR so maybe that is where I will go next. Although after corresponding with Ingo at Skyrush he makes a compelling argument for the big co-axials. I love anything that is off centre so maybe I will consider a Teryx just because it seems to fly (no pun intended) in the face of what people expect.

Watching vids of the x2 on YouTube , even in its "fast" mode, it's still slower than a blade mcpx or 130x by the looks of it. Also looks quite sensitive to wind still. Honestly just looks like another coax, albeit with a minor twist.

As somebody else pointed out.. Parts will be an issue too. Good luck if you get one, but I don't think many (who aren't try to sell it) would recommend it.

[KevDavies]

Blade Mcpx

Teryx 450 X2

Align Trex 450

Blade 450x

Ill leave you to make your own conclusions. 1 of these helis has NO UK parts support.

[helimadness]

Correct once the bug bites there is actually no going back, It only leads to heartbreak and financial ruin. And we LOVE it!! There is no better feeling than watching your heli do aerobatics and thinking, "Thats me that is!"

Hahaha I had that moment on the weekend watching my Goblin doing piro flips.....

Then woke up and realized my mate was flying it not me :-)

[Silverking]

Thank you all for chipping in with advice and pointing me in the right direction. Single blade it is then! I have been playing some more on the sim and focussing on the mSRX, mCPX and the SR and I am beginning to get the hang of them. I must admit my disheartening experiences using the sim was down to me trying to fly all the really big stuff (Hughes 500 turbine etc) instead of focussing on the realities of my skill level!

So your advice please - should I invest in the mSRX first and get confidence with the single rotor before moving to the mCPX or the 450? I figure I could do more than £65 (cost of mSRX) worth of damage learning on a CP.

[tomatwalden]

Different strokes for different folks. Some learn real quick and find the mSRX too limiting too quickly. Others may find the 450's too much to handle earlier on. Judging by what you've said already, I would probably say go with the mSRX initially. Then, when you're confident with that, look at moving on to an mcpx, 130X or some 450-sized depending on your budget, confidence and how much space you have to fly in.

For what it's worth. The simulators are great tools, but I personally find them more difficult than real flying. You don't have the 3D visual cue you have in real life, they're quite "digital" in their response and I simply find them a little disconnected from what I'm actually doing. A real heli is often easier, and always more rewarding!

[KevDavies]

yeah a good simulator is a must!! Phoenix is possibly the best one. You use the transmitter that comes with most Blade helis and is pretty accurate. It also has beginner training modes so will actively teach you to fly.

Although on a Sim my advice is to use a large heli, as they fly more realistically than the smaller ones. I always use 50 size and above as they are more stable.

The Msrx is a great heli and a great starting point. Although there is no reason why a Mcpx should not be your next. Yes its a bit more expensive than the msrx, but its collective pitch and you will learn a great deal more with that than the msrx.

If it was me id get yourself the ready to fly mcpx and a copy of Phoenix and im sure youll soon be bitten by the bug

[helimadness]

For sure sim is worth every cent. I lost interest in it for a while and with only being able to fly on weekends my learning was slow. I started spending more time on the sim and really noticed the difference when I got to the field. A lot more confident if nothing else. The sim is invaluable for learning orientations, and there is a lot of them if you look at the 4 basics upright, then forwards flight then backwards flight then doing all the same inverted forwards and backwards. The sim is the only way.

Great advice above using the larger helis on the sim. With all the new FBL controllers you can set any heli to react as fast or slow as you like so can sort of mimic the larger heli feel.

I kinda did the jump in the deep end approach. Went from 3 channel coax to a trex 500. Kinda off because I just didn't know and hadn't found this site at the time but don't regret it. The bigger heli is great to learn on.

Good luck look forward to many stories.