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    just want to double check the manual for the heli DX6I intermediate set up

    GYRO SWASH MIX
    rate SW-F.MODE AILE -100%
    0; 77.5% NORM 0 ELEV -95%
    1; 76.0% STUNT 1 PITC +85%

    why am i not setting rate / heading hold and what/why am i setting sw-f.mode and not gyro?

    thanks guys
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  • #2
    Anybody?
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    • #3
      Here ya go fella.

      Should be one of these.

      Blade 450 3D BNF BASIC (BLH1650) Manuals, Parts Explosions, Team Tips, Bulletins and other Support Information: Blade - #1 By Design
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      • #4
        Steve, as you probably know, the gyro settings set the gain, or sensitivity, of the gyro. The higher the setting the more rigid the heading hold is when above 50%.

        So it looks to me like those settings are on the F-Mode switch so that in Normal the heading hold is more rigid and in Stunt1 it is slightly less rigid for more sensitivity when doing 3D.

        There is nothing stopping you changing the switch to use the Gear switch. Just change that Sw: F-Mode - to Sw: Gear. Then the gyro sensitivity won't change when you switch flight modes and you can change it manually yourself if and when you want to using the Gear switch.

        When we meet up to fly (which I hope will be soon!) we can play around with those settings to find the one you are most comfortable with.

        EDIT: Forgot to say... with those settings it is not using Rate Mode. Those settings are above 50% and so they are HH values. If you want to use Rate Mode then you will need to have one of the settings at a value less than 50%... say 25%... so that it switches to Rate Mode. If you do that then you most definitely will not want it on the F-Mode switch and I would then change it to the Gear switch as discussed.

        Another way to do it is to set up a GEAR to GEAR mix on one of the switches so that activating the mix reduces the gear channel (channel 5 controls the gyro) so that it reduces the channel output to under 50%. That switch will then switch you between HH and Rate modes. The mix might be something like GEAR - GEAR, D: -50% U: 0% SW: Mix . This would then allow you still use the F-Mode as suggested in the manual, or use the Gear switch as I describe here, but then in either case flicking the Mix switch will reduce the channel by 50% and putting it into Rate mode. These might not be the exact settings as I am going from memory on the DX6i but you can see the principle.

        We can talk more when we meet up.
        Last edited by 450man; 27-02-2013, 09:34 PM.
        Paul

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        • #5
          Thanx Paul. We shall have to try it out. lipos have arrived and weather permitting will try for Sunday if your not going newton abbot?. Or deff Monday. again weather permitting.
          have you tried yours at all?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by stevek32 View Post
            just want to double check the manual for the heli DX6I intermediate set up

            GYRO SWASH MIX
            rate SW-F.MODE AILE -100%
            0; 77.5% NORM 0 ELEV -95%
            1; 76.0% STUNT 1 PITC +85%

            why am i not setting rate / heading hold and what/why am i setting sw-f.mode and not gyro?

            thanks guys
            As 450-(HA HA! )-man says, on the DX6i, 50% to 100% is the full range of heading hold. 0-50% is the full range of rate mode.

            This changes on the DX7 and DX8 which use -100 to 0 for rate, 0-100 for HH
            Tom
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            • #7
              ok thanks tom just unsure why i was setting it in the sw-fite mode and not gyro?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by stevek32 View Post
                ok thanks tom just unsure why i was setting it in the sw-fite mode and not gyro?
                Just so you're clear... that is because Horizon Hobby suggest that when you change flight mode you might want the gyro less rigid for 3D... that is all. Remember... the SW is just the switch... not the channel. You can use any unassigned switch if you like such a Gear as I suggested above.
                Paul

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                • #9
                  Ah I see.... So I can set it as my gyro switch same as i would for the 450 but instead of rate or hh it would just either lower or higher the gain? Is that right.
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                  • #10
                    Yes Steve... that is correct.

                    You don't have to keep those settings. If you want to have it on your Gyro switch and have one setting as HH and one as Rate, as on the 450, then instead of using

                    0: 77.5%
                    1: 76%

                    you could set the values to say

                    0: 77.5%
                    1: 25%

                    This would then be in HH mode at 77% with your Gyro switch in position 0 and in Rate mode at 25% in position 1.
                    Paul

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                    • #11
                      I may try that as I'm not keen on using the flite switch as its to close to the timer switch and I possibly could catch that switch will flicking my timer.
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                      • #12
                        dx6i blade 450 3d manual?

                        Originally posted by stevek32 View Post
                        ok thanks tom just unsure why i was setting it in the sw-fite mode and not gyro?
                        It's so the gyro gain is changed accordingly for different flight modes ( normal, idle up). So when you change into idle up, the gain is also changed at the same time.
                        Tom
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                        • #13
                          dx6i blade 450 3d manual?

                          Originally posted by 450man View Post
                          Just so you're clear... that is because Horizon Hobby suggest that when you change flight mode you might want the gyro less rigid for 3D... that is all. Remember... the SW is just the switch... not the channel. You can use any unassigned switch if you like such a Gear as I suggested above.
                          Ah yeah. Just as Paul says .....
                          Tom
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                          • #14
                            dx6i blade 450 3d manual?

                            Originally posted by stevek32 View Post
                            I may try that as I'm not keen on using the flite switch as its to close to the timer switch and I possibly could catch that switch will flicking my timer.
                            Remember though, you're not going to be changing gain just for the sake of it, and you'll be using idle up anyway for inverted stuff.
                            Tom
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