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    Hello all

    have finished the build on raptor 50 titan v3 and now have to program pitch curves on the tx, the manual that comes with the raptor says

    normal 18 38 5 75 94
    idle 1 0 22 46 70 90
    idle 2 0 22 46 70 90
    hold 15 38 55 75 100

    but on my tx under pitch curve i have 7 points and the values go from -100 to +100

    so me being a newbie I am now totally confused as to what should be entered.

    any help greatly appreciated and apologies for being such a numptie

    cheers sy

  • #2
    You just need to convert from 0 to 100 to -100 to 0 to 100
    Multiply by 2 and take away a 100

    0 50 100 should convert to -100 0 +100

    You can draw two lines if you like next to each other of the same length, one 0 to 100 and one -100 to +100 . Then you can check the points from one to the other. This will give you three points, the two extremes and the centre. I'll get back to you on the others, unless someone writes something first. It depends how accurate a fit you want. Drawing the straight lines is one way and then reading the new points off.

    Your normal curve looks wrong to me.
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    • #3
      I, and most people on here run a straight line pitch curve in all flight modes. IE -100 -66 -33 0 +33 +66 +100

      That will give you a 7 point curve from -100 to +100 (zero is mid stick, zero pitch)

      If you learn this way, as you advance into inverted flying, you pitch remains identical both ways up in the heli (ie hovering at 3/4 stick now, and then hovering and 1/4 stick inverted.
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      • #4
        hi thanks for your time

        well spotted my normal curve is wrong the 5 should be 55, its amazing how simple the answer can be, shame I have forgotten all the O leval maths I learnt at school. LOL

        once again thanks for your time, much appreciated sy

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        • #5
          Well Rob has just saved me messing about with the calculator.

          thanks Rob I shall take your advice and put those settings into all flight modes.

          I always use the sim in idle up mode

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SYF View Post
            Hello all

            have finished the build on raptor 50 titan v3 and now have to program pitch curves on the tx, the manual that comes with the raptor says

            normal 18 38 5 75 94
            idle 1 0 22 46 70 90
            idle 2 0 22 46 70 90
            hold 15 38 55 75 100

            but on my tx under pitch curve i have 7 points and the values go from -100 to +100

            so me being a newbie I am now totally confused as to what should be entered.

            any help greatly appreciated and apologies for being such a numptie

            cheers sy
            have you flew it yet if not you need to speak to me. i found a fault with the manual twice and i have had it backed up on here.

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            • #7
              A straight line curve is good when your used to it. Can be difficult landing with full negative collective on minimum throttle. Some people use 0 pitch on minimum throttle. There's a tendency to drop the throttle when things go wrong, especially if you have flown planks before.
              Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
              Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
              Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
              Phoenix Sim

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              • #8
                Hello,

                I have never flown planks and can see what your saying about landing with full neg pitch, but I have had the sim on idle up from day one and are used to the rapid descent as the throttle goes down, hopefully all the time on the sim will transpose into having a good feel when I hit the field. or maybe not, who knows LOL

                but thanks for your time , much appreciated sy

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                • #9
                  It's the panic moment really. There is no benefit in having any negative pitch when starting. You have to learn quite a bit to be able to use it. You'll still have more control than a fixed pitch. The real thing seems very different from the sim, but it's not really, just our imagination. But then everything only exists in our imagination. Pain isn't real, just something we imagine.
                  Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                  Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                  Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
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                  • #10
                    I sort of agree with both sides of the argument regarding negative pitch... I'd say its easier to learn fly the heli with less negative pitch, say a maximum of -4, not only does this stop the heli smacking the earth off orbit when that "Panic" moment happens, but also it increases the useable "resolution" of stick travel to the pilot. By that i mean for the same amount of stick travel, less movement happens on the cyclic... whereas when full +/- 12 degrees of pitch is used, you get a more "sensitive resolution" because the cyclic can move more from the same amount of stick travel.

                    But at the same time, once you've progressed and move into 3D, your hovering position on the stick changes from 1/2 stick to 3/4 stick, so that would be an adjustment to make.

                    Its upto you which way you decide to learn, personally I like to have "normal mode" setup to make hovering, landing and take off easier and more controllable.
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