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[SaneAdam]

Crickey! Who rattled your cage?


Where did I say it was more valid? I just put forward my opinion based on my experiences which is clearly different from yours but just as valid as yours.

I think it is you "taking exception" don't you?

Nuff said I think.

Yes i have..... "sorry to disagree but as someone who has just gone through this very learning process" That sentence acts to rubbish mine as you imply that as you have ONLY JUST learned how to fly a helicopter your experience is more important than mine. Other wise would not have started with that sentence

Sorry... i just get really annoyed when noobs disagree with me without much experience or knowledge .... Only kidding hahahah..........

[450man]

Well SaneAdam, I respect your experience and knowledge, as I do all of those with more experience than myself, but there is something that I would ask that you remember... just because you have more experience than me it doesn't make you always right! That phrase "sorry to disagree but as someone who has just gone through this very learning process" is important. I have recently gone through the process and so it is VERY fresh in my mind. You might have more flying experience but I have the more recent experience as a beginner and the more experienced you are the more that will apply.

Also, you may not have learned the same way I did and so my learning experience is probably very different to yours. You think yours was better. I think mine was better. Nothing wrong with disagreeing but don't get so uptight about it!

So, we shall have to agree to disagree and let the forum readers make up their own mind which method they will learn with... yours, indoors where the risk of furniture damage is high and the stress of avoiding it a barrier to learning, or mine where they learn outdoors where no harm can come to anything. I know which one I recommend.

I apologise if the way I phrased it seemed to "rubbish" your opinion. That was not my intention but does that mean that just because someone disagrees with you then they are "rubbishing" what you say? I disagreed. I gave my reasons why in what I considered a polite and reasoned manner. I don't take kindly to you attacking me for that.

I might be a noob but that doesn't mean I don't have a valid viewpoint.

[cjcj1949]

Indoors is ok for msr size helis. For anything larger you need a hall or at least a room big enough to give you the freedom to try nose in etc. Outdoors is very difficult to begin with as there is always some wind. The larger the heli the easier it can handle wind. Flybarless seem better in wind. My msrx does fly outdoors. As you get more experienced you can make up your own mind. Having predamaged furniture helps a lot. Age plus kids plus cat.

[450man]

That is why I said outdoors is best but with no wind. That means flying less often but I found I made more progress even though I was flying less. Flying indoors I was worried about damaging the furniture and the MCPX has quite a high head speed and it marks or chips furniture.

I am not saying that you can't learn indoors. All I am saying is that I found I made more progress when I flew outdoors with very little wind.

Let's face it... it is really down to personal choice and to what each of us is happy doing. There is no right and wrong here.

[cjcj1949]

The mcpx is reasonable in wind. If you were flying a CX2 you'd find it much more difficult outdoors. As you say it depends on the heli and comes down to personal preference. The msr is best indoors, but the msrx is best in a hall.