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What worked for me was to practice practice practice a steady tail in hover, then hover at 45 deg left and right until comfortable then again with 90 deg left and right. I didn't move on from each orientation until i was completely comfortable. You will probably find one way is easier than the other, I find right harder than left. I know I'm sounding boring but it worked for me. Recently I have been hovering the nano and mcpx nose in by spinning it towards me quickly and holding it nose in, I can now do that quite comfortably but what I I'm finding hard is slowly turning from tail in to nose in. I will be happy when I can do a 360 slowly left then right continually at will without stopping. Oh and its taken me 6 months to get to my current level ! Must be my age :-)
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yup and the most frustrating thing about nose in is that it is all in your head. there is no difference to the heli at all. there are all sorts of mind tricks people suggest but it just boils down to stick time. a lot of people use the put the stick under the low blade. I tend to imagine myself in the heli, but that gets confusing and time consuming when you advance to faster moves like flips and rolls.
try doing some lazy eights rather than try full nose in. this is where you fly diagonally past yourself so it is crabbing in the direction it is travelling. but with a figure 8 shape then as your brain wires itself to the fact that the controls are the same relative to the helicopter you will find that after a while you don't even think about it.
the other approach is the radds school of flight which is basically sit the heli on the ground nose in and learn to hover again. all the methods and cures have merits and it just depends on your own learning curve and how your brain takes information in. like people have said the thumb brain heli connection will become much more solid a lot faster if you get a simulator. it will save you a heap in the long run once you get the bug and "need" a 700 size heli.
if it is calm, fly outside over grass and there is even less chance of breaking anything. you are also able to get a bit higher and this will give you more time to get back to your solid tail in hover. When you are nose in remember you can pirouette back to tail in in a second or so, so get in the habit of trying to come back to a safe base. then go from there straight back to what you were doing.
I started nose in by doing slow forward flight in circles in front of myself, gradually slowing the heli down until eventually it was hovering in front of me for a few seconds. then carrying on in the circle and coming back to nose in in a circuit, but at a very slow forward speed, I found the slow speed gave the helicopter some added stability compared to just piro'ing around to face myself from a hover. after a few hours of this you'll be able to hover in front of yourself nose in for pack after pack. Try to practise both directions of circle though you don't want to become fixated on only turning left as it is a hard habit to get out of.
most of all stop before you get fed up with it, for me I seem to get better after a break. I may go a few days between flights on the sim and every time I come back I seem to have clicked up a notch.
cheers
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yup and the most frustrating thing about nose in is that it is all in your head. there is no difference to the heli at all. there are all sorts of mind tricks people suggest but it just boils down to stick time. a lot of people use the put the stick under the low blade. I tend to imagine myself in the heli, but that gets confusing and time consuming when you advance to faster moves like flips and rolls.
try doing some lazy eights rather than try full nose in. this is where you fly diagonally past yourself so it is crabbing in the direction it is travelling. but with a figure 8 shape then as your brain wires itself to the fact that the controls are the same relative to the helicopter you will find that after a while you don't even think about it.
the other approach is the radds school of flight which is basically sit the heli on the ground nose in and learn to hover again. all the methods and cures have merits and it just depends on your own learning curve and how your brain takes information in. like people have said the thumb brain heli connection will become much more solid a lot faster if you get a simulator. it will save you a heap in the long run once you get the bug and "need" a 700 size heli.
if it is calm, fly outside over grass and there is even less chance of breaking anything. you are also able to get a bit higher and this will give you more time to get back to your solid tail in hover. When you are nose in remember you can pirouette back to tail in in a second or so, so get in the habit of trying to come back to a safe base. then go from there straight back to what you were doing.
I started nose in by doing slow forward flight in circles in front of myself, gradually slowing the heli down until eventually it was hovering in front of me for a few seconds. then carrying on in the circle and coming back to nose in in a circuit, but at a very slow forward speed, I found the slow speed gave the helicopter some added stability compared to just piro'ing around to face myself from a hover. after a few hours of this you'll be able to hover in front of yourself nose in for pack after pack. Try to practise both directions of circle though you don't want to become fixated on only turning left as it is a hard habit to get out of.
most of all stop before you get fed up with it, for me I seem to get better after a break. I may go a few days between flights on the sim and every time I come back I seem to have clicked up a notch.
cheers
SteveComment
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I apologise if this is on here a few times I kept getting a database error...
I'll pop back later and clean up if it is here more than once...
yup and the most frustrating thing about nose in is that it is all in your head. there is no difference to the heli at all. there are all sorts of mind tricks people suggest but it just boils down to stick time. a lot of people use the put the stick under the low blade. I tend to imagine myself in the heli, but that gets confusing and time consuming when you advance to faster moves like flips and rolls.
try doing some lazy eights rather than try full nose in. this is where you fly diagonally past yourself so it is crabbing in the direction it is travelling. but with a figure 8 shape then as your brain wires itself to the fact that the controls are the same relative to the helicopter you will find that after a while you don't even think about it.
the other approach is the radds school of flight which is basically sit the heli on the ground nose in and learn to hover again. all the methods and cures have merits and it just depends on your own learning curve and how your brain takes information in. like people have said the thumb brain heli connection will become much more solid a lot faster if you get a simulator. it will save you a heap in the long run once you get the bug and "need" a 700 size heli.
if it is calm, fly outside over grass and there is even less chance of breaking anything. you are also able to get a bit higher and this will give you more time to get back to your solid tail in hover. When you are nose in remember you can pirouette back to tail in in a second or so, so get in the habit of trying to come back to a safe base. then go from there straight back to what you were doing.
I started nose in by doing slow forward flight in circles in front of myself, gradually slowing the heli down until eventually it was hovering in front of me for a few seconds. then carrying on in the circle and coming back to nose in in a circuit, but at a very slow forward speed, I found the slow speed gave the helicopter some added stability compared to just piro'ing around to face myself from a hover. after a few hours of this you'll be able to hover in front of yourself nose in for pack after pack. Try to practise both directions of circle though you don't want to become fixated on only turning left as it is a hard habit to get out of.
most of all stop before you get fed up with it, for me I seem to get better after a break. I may go a few days between flights on the sim and every time I come back I seem to have clicked up a notch.
cheers
SteveComment
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