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    been trying to hover for a about 16 weeks with a honeybee v2 fb can hover for about 30sec and then i try to hard , i all so have a trex 100s which i can hover , is it wright ????

  • #2
    Learning to hover is not easy, learning to hover a Honey bee is very difficult indeed.
    Take small steps.
    Don't take off and try to fly for 5 mins non stop. Get it off the floor correct and level it then land. Over a couple of flights you should move from short hops to entire batts.

    Everyone learns at a different pace. Don't worry if it takes you months to crack it you will get there in the end.

    Joe
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    • #3
      thanks for info just can understand , i can fly one but not the honeybee will keep trying

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      • #4
        There are different types of learning. Normally you just have to remember how to do something, usually with no pressure to begin with. On a heli you have to learn to hover without thinking. It takes time. It does happen, though possibly not with a Honeybee. There are ways of making it easier. Using a sim is a good start. You'll need one for practicing more difficult things. Get someone to check your heli or post a video. It does get automatic after a bit. You don't have to be in a perfect hover all the time. You can move the heli nose from left to right and also move the heli slowly left and right. You only really need a good hover for landing. You will need to be able to move the heli about though. Just let it move about some of the time and get the feel of how much time you have before you need a correction.
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        • #5
          The honey bee is not an easy helicopter to fly. The trex 100 is built to be stable with its 45degree flybar.

          An mcpx would probably be easier to learn on then the honey bee.

          Joe
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          G4 E720
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          Goblin 700 KSE Fast
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          Spectra G
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          I'm not controlling it, just preventing it from crashing
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          • #6
            Originally posted by james and View Post
            thanks for info just can understand , i can fly one but not the honeybee will keep trying
            I regret to say your experience is perfectly normal.

            If you want to make faster progress the Honeybee will have to go. It is not impossible to learn using that heli, just extremely frustrating and time consuming.

            If you have a crash and the Honeybee needs any work done that would be a great time to replace it rather than repair it.

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            • #7
              And here you are enjoying the frustration of this hobby.

              Yes it's not easy, in fact hovering is one of the most difficult bits, but it's the one skill you need the most.

              As said take it slow, little hops, trying to keep the heli as level as you can. Use a big space ( flat as you can ) and don't get too stressed about the heli drifting off a bit. The way I leanrt was to try and keep the heli level, and slowly build height until I was comfortable at about head height. Try keeping the heli level as possible rather than correct the drift, and then when it gets away from you slowly lower the collective and put the heli back down, all the time trying to keep it level. Then move so your stood behind it again and go again. I found I could do a couple of moves and then I had to pick the heli up and walk back to my starting point as it drifted so much to start with. Once you are keeping the heli reasonably level then you can start to correct the drift and try and keep it in the same place.

              It all comes together eventually.

              I found my hovering was always a bit wobbly, I could keep the heli reasonably in the same place but felt I overcorrected a bit too much. It wasn't until recently after really getting to grips with some circuit flying that I went back to practicing my hovering and it's really improved. I'm guessing because I'm more used to adding small corrections whilst flying I'm now more able to do this in a hover. So my advice would be to practice hard, but once you've got comfortable doing something, dont keep at it trying to get it absolutely perfect, start to stretch yourself again and then the other stuff also improves.
              Pete

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              • #8
                i think i have got the left and right sorted out , it when the i start moving forward and backwards it go wrong lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by james and View Post
                  been trying to hover for a about 16 weeks with a honeybee v2 fb can hover for about 30sec and then i try to hard , i all so have a trex 100s which i can hover , is it wright ????
                  From what I have read some people find it amazingly easy and some don’t. In fact, If i think back to the days when I was a Planker, I remember a retired Sea King pilot of 30 years coming to our club and getting lessons to fly model Helo's, he wanted to Build and fly a scale Sea King. he actually gave up!!!

                  I hovered on my first flight as did my son.

                  I think you need to keep persevering with it, because trust me.... Its a wwonderful feeling when you finally get it right Maybe give a Sim a go if you can afford it.

                  *Added* i'd also slightly disagree with Pete (sorry Pete) when he says move the model, maybe the first few times yes, but there after you want to make the model do all the work or your just get into bad habbits. I was told on my first flight, always make the model work for you and not the other way round.
                  Last edited by ShaggyRS6; 02-03-2012, 10:39 AM.
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                  • #10
                    nice info thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mark_T View Post
                      I regret to say your experience is perfectly normal.

                      If you want to make faster progress the Honeybee will have to go. It is not impossible to learn using that heli, just extremely frustrating and time consuming.

                      If you have a crash and the Honeybee needs any work done that would be a great time to replace it rather than repair it.
                      quite agree, throw away the honeybee (throwing is the only way they fly well anyway)

                      look for a used Trex450 or if funds are lower maybe a blade 400/Twister 3d Storm which arent quite as good as a Trex450, but will certainly allow you to progress faster than a honeybee

                      also the honeybee's are a pain to set up there is so much flex in everything its difficult to get anything set, tracking tends to drift in and out and if a heli is poorly set up then trying to fly it will always be hard work

                      i have a Twister 3d storm for sale if you are interested PM me, its the heli my dad learnt on before getting a Trex 500
                      Steve - Instructor and builder for the Paul Heckles school of flying

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                      • #12
                        i tried the honeybee fp but binned it and got a 250se and lerned on that ,been at it for 6 months . take things slowly practice lots (things just click) and your hovering but keep practicing
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                        • #13
                          cost me about 150 already lol

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                          • #14
                            Oh and try not to panic when things start to go wrong. Panic = £££'s The closest I have come to a bin bag so far has been when I paniced
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                            • #15
                              i am looking at a trex 500 3gx got a dx7 looking at a icharger but in two minds ?

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