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  • Hiya, Newbie Twister Storm 3D

    Hiya,

    Just thought I would say hello and introduce myself before posting loads of questions.

    My wife bought me a Goshawk 4ch contra rotating helicopter for Xmas and I had a good hour or two of fun out of it before the speed controller died. I took it back to the shop it was bought from and they could not repair it or offer a replacement so they offered a refund.

    Although I had lots of fun with the Goshawk I was at the point where I wanted something a bit more challenging that I could fly outside so with the refund in hand I set off to my local RC specialist after doing a bit of research online.

    I came away with a Twister Storm 3D as it ticked all the boxes for me. I made some training skids and had two reasonably successful flights. I had a few close calls but was just getting the hang of a stable hover.

    On the third flight I got a bit to adventurous trying a quick tail spin and lost control hitting the kids swing. I managed to break the flybar seesaw, cracked a blade and broke a flybar link.

    I've just rebuilt it using an aluminium flybar seesaw, new blades and a lnk. I tracked the blades and went back to practice the hover. I managed an un-eventful flight but struggled to hold a hover for long.

    With the night drawing in I decided to fiddle with the gyro setting as the tail seemed to be drifting a bit. I was setting the gyro in the kitchen as the tiled floor allows the skids to rotate easily for setting up the gyro and unfortunately I clipped a blade in the kitchen cupboard and split the blade Anyway I've now put the carbon blades on and hopefully I'm a bit luckier tomorrow. It's been a steep learning curve so far!

  • #2
    The gyro is not too good especially in the cold. Allow it to get used to the temperature it will be flying in for about 10 mins. There are better gyros. Try to take things slowly at first. A 450 is easy to break and expensive to repair.The plastic frame isn't that good at surviving tail first landings and the servos gears are weak, unless they have been upgraded. I'd advise not using the carbons but buy some glass fibre from Giant Cod. You'll need credit card washers to make them fit in the blade grips. You might find rate mode drifts less than heading hold. A bad gyro is a good way to learn tail control. Not the easiest way to start but it doesn't have to be a problem.
    Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
    Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
    Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
    Phoenix Sim

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    • #3
      as mentioned the electronics arnt all that great on that heli but they should be ok to get you going, it a big step up from 4 channel as you have proberly noticed but stick with it and you should be ok in the end.
      my advice would be to get a decent flight simulator like pheonix or real flight then you can practice to your hearts content on the pc and the crashes are free. i wouldent use the carbons just yet either as cjcj said, they will transfer damage into the head of the heli easier and you will get frustrated repairing it all the time. maybe pick up some cheap wood blades for starters as these tend to smash up and not much else gets damaged.
      i started out on a belt cp which really is a bottom of the range 6 channel heli and as soon as i moved up to the far better quality t-rex 450 pro my flying improved quickly. everyone has a budget to work to though so thats not always an option for beginers. the biggest mistake i made when i started out was not buying a simulator earlier and once i did i realised it was the best 80 quid id spent
      T- Rex 600 EFL PRO, KontroniK Jive 80HV, Outrage TORQ HV Servos, Skookum bus, BeastX V3, Rail 606
      T- Rex 500 ESP, KontroniK Koby 90LV, 500MX, EFL V2 Pro Head, BeastX V3, S9254
      MCPX2, Pheonix, DX7,Thunder power G6 lipos, TP 820 CD
      Happy Flying! Stan

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      • #4
        Hey bud I'm with ya here"its a steep learning curve" lol

        Im new to this myself after many years of fixed wing,my 1st heli was a trex100 which will bounce a lot and give you a great understanding on indoor and outdoor on a calm day without much wind 2knots or there about.

        I progressed onto a Twister second hand and bought 2 of em real cheap. Half the battle here is the setup so i suggest patience and try finding someone who can help you understand the setup and mechanics/programming etc.Once the fella is found i would get him to show you how to reduce the head speed a bit and give you softer pitch around the hover point so she doesn't fall quickly when you come just below half throttle stick.

        My mate was very kind and also installed a futaba GY401 gyro with a cheap £15.00 digital tail servo.This made the whole thing so much better it was like flying a new model (totally locked in) Second hand decent gyro £45.00. I would say for learning this is a wise investment as the gyro can go with you to the next model..

        My boy now has the Twister and I've moved onto a Blade450 and Trex550 which is so so good.

        Hope this info is of help to ya..Descent Gyro and a Man in the Know(or woman)!lol

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        • #5
          Thanks guys, some great advice there. I think the gyro will be my first upgrade.

          Just had a 10 minute hover practice in the garden, nice and slowly. I mowed a 6ft by 6ft patch of grass and tried to keep it in the box at about a 1ft hover. It all went very well so I'm pleased again I seemed to be getting quite a wobble when in the air, its fine on the ground. Would the training gear cause this?


          Thanks again

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          • #6
            Hovering at 1 ft is more difficult than higher up. You get ground effect and turbulence. If you can hover without crashing just keep going, you will get better. If you still get a wobble at head hight you might want to make a vid so people can have a look.
            Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
            Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
            Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
            Phoenix Sim

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            • #7
              Hi there, great heli to start with mate,(I started with one as well) but dont bother with any upgrades,
              It will hover and fly well in the stock trim.
              99% of blade 400 parts fit, I used the wooden blades
              As has been said already, Half the battle here is in the setup.
              I was doing loops, rolls, stall turns, and general sport flying with my 3d Storm.(Guy was very impressed)
              Crash it fix it fly it,
              learning to set it up well will pay off when you buy a bigger toy

              Heres some basic setups if you haven't yet seen them
              Blade 400 3d Head Setup Part1 - YouTubeBlade 400 3d Head Setup Part 2 - YouTubeBLADE 400 3D head setup part 3 - YouTubeBLADE 400 3D head setup part 4 - YouTube
              Save yer cash, and when you can fly it buy a trex 600n

              G
              Grahamc

              Phoenix,
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              Trex 450 Pro
              Trex 600 Pro unbuilt in the box
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              Trex 700 LE FBL BeastX
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              • #8
                I upgraded mine with a few metal bits and found it better. Especially the tail. I bought the Blade 400 metal upgrade. It fitted my Trex 450 clone. Other bits are transferable to another 450 like better servos. With the servos it depends how often you crash, but TowerPro metal survive better than the stock ones. The gyro is well worth an upgrade and completely transferable. Having said that, there is a lot to be said for just flying it as standard. It is easier to learn with upgrades and I lost 3 months because of a servo problem that caused boom strikes due to faulty construction. Any first 450 is likely to suffer though and I know there is no easy way to find out how to do it. The crashes get better as you get more able. The Twister flies pretty well when everything is ok.
                Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
                Phoenix Sim

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