What constitutes a front room hover?

[Murv]

As in, what sort of space should i be able to keep it in? (mSR-X)
I'm aiming for a metre cubed (very roughly) which is achievable some of the time until it suddenly goes out of control.

What should I be aiming for? best result so far is two crashes on one battery, I must be the only RCH "pilot" that desperately wants the lipo to expire rapidly so I can claim a full crashless flight on a battery lol

Cheers,

Chris

[Spanner]

I would say that's a start, try and keep it in one spot ideally! And I would be aiming for no crashes! After that a couple of tic tocs I suppose?!

[Murv]

A tic what? lol
To be honest, I'm aiming to nail the hovering thing first, it's OK but the heli very slowly rotates. Side on is OK, a soon as it swings past that my co-ordination just goes!

Trouble is, as I can't even achieve a steady tail in hover I seem to be a long way from attempting a nose-in.
I've tried it on the sim but it's just ridiculously easy with the msr, it just sits there steadily which my little bird just doesn't do!

I'm always aiming for no crashes, but it seems to be irresistibly attracted to the nearest object!

[Martyn (Bomber)]

Don't feel too bad Murv, I've seen good pilots that can't hold an Mcpx steady for long, they are flighty little things and if you can fly one of them smoothly you can fly anything so it's good practice.

[Murv]

Thanks for the encouragement, sadly though this is the mSR-X, the fixed pitch "easy to fly" beginners heli' (insert suitably embaressed looking smilie here)

[Martyn (Bomber)]

Thanks for the encouragement, sadly though this is the mSR-X, the fixed pitch "easy to fly" beginners heli' (insert suitably embaressed looking smilie here)

Sorry Murv my bad, but not all is lost as the MCx is the counter-rotating beginners heli and the MSrx is the Fixed Pitch Intermediate heli so it still requires skill to fly

Keep trying mate it will come.

[Vikki]

Usually going corner to corner and not banging the suction head into furniture legs.... Oh, sorry, thought you said hoover LOL!



Vikki.

[Vikki]

Murv, are you finding that it does strange things when you are hovering and give a little left rudder?

And aren't the little buggers feisty!

Best regards.

Vikki.

[Murv]

Murv, are you finding that it does strange things when you are hovering and give a little left rudder?

And aren't the little buggers feisty!

Best regards.

Vikki.

Rudder? indoors? you jest, surely...

If I dare to touch the rudder, even by the tiniest, tiniest amount the heli seems to take that as a green light to career off in a completely random direction straight into a wall. Not all the time, sometimes it cannons into the fish tank, or the dog. Depends whatever looks most destructive at the time I think!

No, it's taught me and taught me well that it will put up with my attempts at tail in hovering with just a few crashes per battery, just so long as I don't touch the rudder under any circumstances...

And don't forget, this is the mild mannered, fixed pitch jobbie, not a fiery little MCPX!

[DaveJones]

Set yourself targets, starting with 1m square and gradually set smaller targets as you get comfortable with the first. I found the biggest challenges was getting bored hovering and having a go at moving somewhere intentional, usally resulted in my hitting the nearest solid object.

Patience is a definete requirement learning to fly these things.

[Vikki]

Murv, have a look here:

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=373327

There's a huge thread about it in rcgroups somewhere. A firmware bug.

Some people are experiencing it shooting off when inputting left rudder during hovering. It was this information that put me off getting it since I was going to be practicing hovering with it.

It's difficult to know how to judge this as there are lots of people that say they have no problem and lots that say they do.

I asked the model shop guy and he said 'bad pilot'. But, there's a test you can do to prove it and it was an expert flier that came up with it.

One guy I read about was holding a good hover and input left rudder to turn it side on and it shot past his face.

Since you have one I leave it to you to try the test and yay or nay it. I would certainly be interested in your findings. It would be good to have independent input on this.

Best regards.

Vikki.

[Vikki]

Do you use a sim, Murv?

I've been using Phoenix but I found the mCP x to be far too easy to hover. Then I remembered that some kind soul on here suggested editing the model and making the flybarless system passive. Oh yeah, that hit the spot. Made it behave like it did when I was flying it in the field. Twitchy and prone to legging it.

Hope that might help with yours if you sim.

Best regards.

Vikki.

[Murv]

Thanks for those Vikki, plenty for me to read up on there, I'll investigate thoroughly over the weekend and report back.

I suspect as a newb it's pilot error, but it does seem crazy that it's so wildly uncontrollable with just the merest hint of rudder, especially as expo is at 30%

Yes I do have Phoenix, need to get my head around setting it up properly instead of just playing with the gas turbine scale heli's and planes!

[Adzski]

Hi Murv......

Having pretty much the same problem.......

Bought the MSR X after using an MCX for a week and finding it lacked a challenge....don't have that problem now.....

Can get it to hover pretty well now and with right rudder spin quite easily...but left is a problem.

It always seems to suddenly shoot backwards at the same time...starting to learn to compensate by pitching forward when applying left rudder, but did think this was bizarre.
Taking it outside just makes it ridiculous......had to retrieve it from my neighbour a few times...

Persevering though....just bought a DX6i from a member and intend hooking up to Phoenix asap to start practising.....

Sorry I couldn't offer any advice, but good to hear it's not just me.....

Adam

[Murv]

Cheers Adam, glad to know I'm not alone!

Have you looked at the links in Vikki's post above? it does very much sounds as if some of the msr-x's do need a bit of modifying and it's not normal behavior. (clink on her link then there's a second link from there that takes you to the juicy stuff)

I'm definitively going to give it a go when I get home and will report back

cheers,

Chris