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  • How I got hooked by the heli-bug.

    As promised, here's the story of my interest in RC helicopters.

    I've had the interest for a long time, ever since I saw a man learning to fly his at a local field. The field is no longer there as a school was built on it. So, a few decades ago then. He had a huge hula-hoop on the bottom of it.

    I never gave it anymore thought since I knew these things were going to be expensive with a capital X. I figured you'd start with a pile of balsa wood and build it then fly it and end, seconds later, with an untidy pile of balsa wood followed by a loud cheque book groan.

    A few years ago my brother got a little toy helicopter and while fun (for 10 seconds) it was dreadful really. No gyro back then. You bent the tail fin to get a little side trhust out of the main rotor down-wash. You also launched it into the air at a hefty rate of knots (unless you wanted to watch it do the 'chicken dance'). So, not good, not really.

    Just before Christmas I went into ModelZone and saw the helicopters and decided to get a Syma S111G. It had... a gyro! Wow that was fun to play with - for a while.

    Next day I went back to the model shop and got a Bemma co-axial helicopter. Big beggar it was. Charged it, took it into the garden. Put the throttle up. Blades start spinning. More throttle. Then even more. Then full throttle - and still the bugger wouldn't take off. Then it fell over. That was its main trick. Spool up, fall over. 3 charges and no airtime.

    So, next day, feeling very disappointed and disillusioned with a potentail new hobby, I took the Bemma back. They didn't really believe me until they tried it themselves. The guy in the shop spooled it up to maximum and stared amazed as it rabbit-hopped backwards. "There," says I, "Won't take off." I get my money back.

    Having already done some research I realised I should have bit the bullet and gone with the branded Blade 120 SR. yep, you guessed it, back down to ModelZone to buy a Blade 120 SR (who I call Blizzard - don't ask).

    So, home and Blizzard is unpacked and the battery put on charge. Plenty of space in the bathroom as outside is too windy, so in I go. Jeepers it was like flying a manic rabbit. Blizzard was everywhere and nowhere, baby. He hit this and he hit that and I was the slack jawed yokel that let him. Tried him in the bedroom. Something soft to land on if he decides to take on the glide path of a sharpened brick. Right, he shoots back and to left of me to strike the door and the tail rotor motor breaks off.

    Superglue the puppy back on and decide to take him into work where there is more space. I'm up on the mezzanine floor lunch time and got a fair bit of space around me. I pull off a hover!!! I'm over the moon and try again. This time he drifts off to the left and is starting to come down in some boxes with a load of metal legs sticking up out of them. Oh no! Put power on to compensate and newbie thumb decides to over compensate and nearly full power is put on. Blizzard leaps into the air like a rabbit that sat on a lit fag end. 9' in the blink of an eye. Now, I don't know why I did it but I gave him some forward cyclic, shock I guess, and, well.... Our mzzanine floor at work has a false ceiling sticking out where we fit fire-curtains to test them. Yeah, you guessed, he piled on up and over and landed (I use the word 'landed' loosely) on top of the false ceiling.

    OK, not a disaster. I go down stairs and bring up the huge stepladders. That was an adventure in its own right. Grub around on top of the false ceiling and bring Blizzard down. Yep, tail motor broken off again but otherwise in one piece.

    Back home and I reglue the tail rotor motor holder back on. Next day at work I decided to wait until after work and try flying Blizzard on the HUGE table that we have for sewing up these HUGE fire-curtains. He takes off and pretty much goes where he fancies. In seconds he's 20+ feet away and shifting. I drop him on to the table and go collect him and reposition him. Well, a little (little? Liar!) over-compensation later and he's shot off the table behind me and, yep, busted the tail rotor motor holder again (fragile stuff superglue). Fun lasted less than a minute. I tried regluing the busted bit back on but there's only so many times you can glue superglue to superglue. I gave up and ordered two new booms, sans motor, and some new blades (just incase). Blizzard was put away until the parts arrived.

    By now I was thinking that there was something wrong with Blizzard. it couldn't be me, oh no, I've watched the guy on Horizon Hobbies lift it stright into the air and hover it and even let go of the controls. Nooooo, couldn't be me - or - could it? Where was the warning: Flying this thing maybe harder than our expert makes it look.

    Was talking to a guy at work who flies planks. He says he'll lend me his simulator and controller. Turns out it's RealFlight Basic and it's own controller and he sells it me for £40 (what happened to 'loan'?). So, Friday night sees me playing with this (very, very) basic flight sim. The only helicopter that says 'trainer' and has training gear is a huge nitro jobby.

    I lift that sucker into the air and watch as it tears off into the distance with a sort of curving forwards sideways motion. It's accelerating like a gazelle belting past a pride of lions. FAST!

    BANG! Into the deck it goes. So I spend the next few helicopters (literally, I spent them) getting the trim reasonably right. I lift that sucker into the air (got the feeling we've been here before? Thought so) and I try to hover him. Hells Bells but the slippery devil is off like wet soap on oiled glass.I give it power to prevent another crash and before I know it I'm looking at a fullstop in the sky. I left it to crash.

    Two hours and dozens and dozens of chopper deaths later I'm starting to get the ghist of the thing and start to understand some of the physics I'm dealing with here. One thing, why, when it got away from me (which was frequently) did it go howling off and do a huge tail-in circle around me? That was wierd.

    The next day I tried again and I was able to get a sort of hover but then the critter would break free again and go haring off. By then I'd learnt to be able to stop it and bring it to a hover. A hover 30' away and a 100' up. I carried on playing with it on Saturday but to this day I'm not convinced that Real Flight Basic's physics are quite right. I also learnt short, sharp movements. I also learnt that if it's haring away then put a steep move on in the opposite direction and bring it to level before it fully stops 'cause if you don't you'll send it haring off in the opposite direction. So I learnt prediction. These things have hysterisis. I have a new move, it's called 'rocking the baby'.

    Sunday came and it was a beuatiful calm day and Blizzard was snoozing peacefully on the shelf awaiting his new tail boom. So, back on the simulator. By now I'm not crashing (tell the truth, hardly crashing) anymore. If the blighter gets away from me I am able to stop it and hover it at a distance and bring it down safely where it is (mostly 'cause I can't yet bring it back to me) but hey! It's a recovery isn't it?

    Tuesday arrives and so does Blizzard's parts. Get home Tuesday evening, have tea and then fit Blizzard's new tail boom. Trot him into the bathroom and give him a whirl. Hey! I'm hovering him! I'm ecstatic! He drifts to the left and I nearly panic but remember my sim training and calmly nudge the stick to the right and he comes back to me. I land him and leave it at that until I can get him into a bigger, more comfortable space.

    I'm not happy with Real Flight Basic. It doesn't allow you to change any parameters and doesn't have models like the ones I'm after or have. The electrics are hyped up like they're on super-concentrated Red Bull. The big nitro trainer slips around like an eel in corn oil. Don't they half accelerate!!! Full tilt and it could put a heli shaped hole in a brick wall.

    Tried a plank out of curiosity. Took off, banked, dug a furrow.

    Soooo, I've been discussing options with the model shop in Worthing (about 50 minutes away by train) and I'm getting a DX6i transmitter and Phoenix V3. I like the idea of the tutorials that's built in to it and I like that I can bind the transmitter to Blizzard. I like the idea that a virtual copy of Blizzard (I hope I can tell them apart) lives in Phoenix and that I can use the very same transmitter on both. The end goal is to get a BNF Blade 450 later. Lots of sim time and lots of Blizzard flights later.

    That's pretty much where I'm at at the moment. Thanks for reading.

    Best regards.

    Vikki.

    Last edited by Vikki; 11-01-2012, 12:31 PM. Reason: Typos.

  • #2
    Well done with your progression and good choice of sim, you get free updates including some of the latest heli's and even updated versions of the sim it's self with Phoenix, also nice to see you putting time into a sim as lot's of people disregard sim's completely but there's no doubt in this hobby how priceless a sim is even when you can fly they are super handy for trying new things before trying it with your pride and joy
    Martyn

    SAB Goblin 570 Sport - Scorpion 4025/1100kv - Scorpion Tribunus 12/130A - Spektrum HV H6205/H6210 Servos - Spektrum AR7210BX

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    • #3
      lol im sat in my van drinking a tea giggling to myself!! by far the best intro story ive read!!!! hats of to u girl, keep at it!!!

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      • #4
        I agree with the sim. Without it I wouldn't be able to hover Blizzard now. With the sim you can fly as long as you like. You can observe behaviour without incurring expanse. You can study what you're doing and how it affects the heli. Only had RF Basic a week and already moving up to Phoenix. £40 it cost me but that £40 told me whether it was worth pursuing or not. I saw improvement and thought hey, this is a goer, time to crank it up a notch. I like that Phoenix has tutorials. They will be very valuable to me.

        Best regards.

        Vikki.

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        • #5
          Looking forward to episode two, made me smile as well...Glyn

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          • #6
            great intro, watchin out for series two

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            • #7
              Lovely story Vikki, I hope you carry on enjoying the hobby as you have so far, despite the setbacks lol.

              When you get Phoenix, be sure to come online and have a fly with some of us. There's a lot of guys and gals from this forum who are there quite often, and most are very keen to help you learn new things.
              Martin



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              • #8
                Your mission is to tell the girls that it isn't a man's sport. Not sure what you know about the physics. For me the main thing is that the rotor leans to the right in a stable hover. At takeoff the rotor is level and so the heli will move to the left until you stop it, move it back in front of you and stablise. Sometimes people learn this without realising they are. The heli you have tens to self correct. They do this by having the flybar at an angle. I have no idea why it does that.
                Having this self correction is good for hovering, but when you move onto forward flight it gets in the way. At the forward flight stage a standard heli like a Blade 450 or Trex 450 or clone is easier. Lots to do on your heli though. Side on hover and nose in. Soon you'll want an mcpx.
                Being young, you will learn quickly and soon overtake the older flier. So words like "3D isn't that difficult", may not be appreciated. They will enjoy watching you progress though.
                Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
                Phoenix Sim

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                • #9
                  Thank you for the young comment. Makes this ol' croc feel loads better

                  I'm looking forward to learning this hobby.

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                  • #10
                    Hi Vikki and welcome to the forum. I started with realflight G3 because it was introduced to me by my
                    work colleague. It got me past the hovering stage at least and then I got Pheonix and have not gone back
                    to see how Realflight looks and feels now but I still have it and keep thinking about trying it again
                    just for grins (actually I think RealFlight is quite good for fixed-wing and even if the heli physics are not perfect
                    it's prob still good enough). I do remember thinking for a while that flying helis was next
                    to impossible. It seemed incredibly difficult in the beginning. One thing I learned is that the
                    setup is so so important. This is one reason why my first attempts at flying a real rc heli
                    were not as successful as I would have liked.

                    Anyway, I have not tried RF basic so cannot comment but I do remember when I first
                    got Phoenix that it felt quite different from RF G3 and this worried me at the time.

                    In any case it sounds like you're on the right track and obviously we're happy
                    to help if we can :-)
                    Kasama, Minicopter, Henseleit, JR, Shape, Beam
                    Robbe, RMJ Raptor gasser, powered by
                    Spartan, Spirit, BeastX, Kontronik, CY Total-G, DX8

                    member of Epsom Downs and Bloobird clubs
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                    • #11
                      I'm just amazed you have a bathroom big enough to hover a heli in!!
                      Yes the big sigpic is coming back

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                      • #12
                        Hi Vikki welcome and Hello. Thanks for the tale and enjoy learning ! it never stopps!! Watch out for the sessions online using phoeinix you will be able to watch a few of us trying to fly from on hear Cheers Jason
                        Goblin 700 comp 3 blade Kyle stacey head and tail, 160 scorpion esc , ultimate motor,MKS. Vbar NEO
                        Trex 700 DFC Dominator motor, scorpion . MKS. Vbar NEO
                        iCharger 4010 , PL8 charger,
                        Vbar Control and a case of lithium plus an eu10i genny !!!

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                        • #13
                          If I joined in online I would be the out of control pest, the drunken picnic wasp. There's something I'm not understanding and as soon as I can put it into words I'll put up my question. Although, I'm tempted to wait until I've tried Phoenix in case it's dodgy heli physics in RF Basic.

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                          • #14
                            Lovely tale Vikki, welcome to the madness. When you have Phoenix up & running choose a big heli to start with, they are slower reacting & easier to see than a small one. Something like a Trex600 would be ok & don't forget to visit the Phoenix forum for setup details. Above all, have some fun.

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                            • #15
                              Yes. Big one. RFlight even big ones get small quickly LOL! I like the way the bigger helis handle. Really looking forward to getting Phoenix.

                              I have another problem now. I've looked at the price of a Blade 450 BNF and getting it later adds £50+ to the price over the RTF by the time you buy the battery and charger separately. I wonder if I'd be better off getting the RTF now for the tx but leaving the heli in the box until I'm proficient on the 120SR.

                              Could I resist the temptation? Argghhhhhh! Decisions, decisions! Could be jumping the gun here as the idea is to see if I can fly a heli before lashing out on a 450.

                              Vikki.
                              Last edited by Vikki; 11-01-2012, 10:16 PM.

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