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  • #31
    i would not pay more than 150 i have got a 3dx 450 se like the trex for sale its on bmfa classifieds now it up there with the trex it got everthing you would need 401 gyro hitec servo's lipo charger 2 flightpower evo 2200 mah baterries and a balancer jr reiciever and jr x3810 open to offers, as for the mini pred i did not say they were good i meant they are ok after setting them up

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    • #32
      and when you say reasoable radio gear , how reasonable?

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      • #33
        It has

        hitec hs-55blue tail servo,3 e -sky servos telebee head lock and std gyro ,align 400s brushless motor outrunner,twister 3d 11.1v 1500mah

        Last edited by Feakins; 23-07-2007, 09:43 PM.

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        • #34
          I think alot of people that knock the mini pred own helis that cost alot more money ........ In my opinion I think that once the mini pred is set up by someone that knows wot that doing then it is a fine heli to learn with... already looking at an IC model so yes i think i been bitten by the bug ....... aint ready to give up my fixed wings yet tho lol ,yes I bought a diff Tx but then its got all the functions I want in it for my planes as well ........ Now just need them to release one without a Tx for a lower price then all should be well ......... but for now it seem like a nice heli ......... oh and parts are cheap as well
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mixman View Post
            My local model shop stocks the mini pred and although it would be handy for spares, many of you seem to have a bad opinion of this model. Whats the best electric helicopter to get. It will be my 1st real model after a twister bell 47, which is far too easy to fly.

            Thanks
            I learnt to fly Helis on the Mini-Pred, so dont knock it too much. However, the problem is, that the links on the head are joggles and not ball links,and they wear fairly quickly leading to a lot of slop ,so im looking at trying to modify it somehow to take ball links. I now have a Mini-Titan and thats the mutts nuts, its stable and predictable,and flys well indoor and out. Cheers.

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            • #36
              I'm a new comer to heli world... as you i started with a twister bell 47!
              The mini titan i went for was the kit with motor and esc (£120)... well pleased and cheap to start out - had a few problems getting the spares - now found out most of'em are available from this website!

              Easy to build form kit form, instructions are clear (apart from working out the heli's CoG & blade balancing).... get the mini titan!
              Regards,
              Matt
              Mini titan with kit ESC & motor, Tornado LiPo 1800mAh, GY401, 2.4GHz Futaba Radio & 3x HS56hb cyclic servo's + Futaba 3154 tail servo + JP LI-PRO PLUS 5 BALANCER CHARGER with 10A PSU
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              • #37
                I don't think anyones saying its 100% useless, im certainly not.
                It's great for hovering but that is about it, you spent 179.99 on hovering maybe some on spares. then you would (hopefully) see sense and go get a Trex, which would then cost you say 500-600 for EVERYTHING which has put you up to nearly 8ton in all.

                My outcome

                Mini Pred: ideal to teach you the basic principles on RC Helicopters and to get a feel of how it reacts to certain inputs
                cost:179.99

                OR!

                Phoenix Flight-sim:ideal to teach you the basic principles on RC Helicopters and to get a feel of how it reacts to certain inputs
                oh and t also help you develop you basic flying around skills so when you get a trex your confident

                Cost: 79.99 from ALL GOOD MODEL SHOPS!




                just noticed the gear it has- Esky S75's are very weak and arn't rvery good at all, the Eflite ones have slightly better gears but still arn't the best.
                HS 55's £9.75 each or get a deal on 4 and have a spare...
                Last edited by Green-Giant; 27-07-2007, 10:27 PM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Green-Giant View Post
                  My outcome

                  Mini Pred: ideal to teach you the basic principles on RC Helicopters and to get a feel of how it reacts to certain inputs
                  cost:179.99

                  OR!

                  Phoenix Flight-sim:ideal to teach you the basic principles on RC Helicopters and to get a feel of how it reacts to certain inputs
                  oh and t also help you develop you basic flying around skills so when you get a trex your confident

                  Cost: 79.99 from ALL GOOD MODEL SHOPS!

                  All things considered I wish thats what I'd done.
                  I started with a Twister, spent more than it cost fixing it when I crashed it and still couldn't fly my Trex when I bought it because the twister is nothing like a proper heli and lures you into a false sense of ability.

                  I've only got FMS sim at the moment but I've still learnt lots of stuff on it and I'm much better with my Trex because of it. As soon as I return to the UK I'm going to get Phoenix and set it all up exactly like my Trex.

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                  • #39
                    I'm sorry but you can do a lot more than hover with a mini-pred, its basically the same as a Zoom 400, but with different frames and some parts have been made a bit more beefy.

                    Considering that my Zoom 400 has been flying since they came out, and its been doing aerobatics, I dont doubt that the pred will be able to do the same and probably more.

                    It can get you into FF flight, and it will get you into basic aerobatics, and even let you have a go at inverted flight, especially since you can alter the mixing ratios on it compared to the zoom.

                    Thats a damned sight more than just hovering.

                    It seems that people look at it and see zoom, and there has always been a thing between zoom owners and T-rex owners and it seems to have transfered over.

                    Who really gives a crap to be honest, there is no need to be putting it down, and how can you judge just by five minutes with it, and a cursory look.
                    Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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                    • #40
                      hi there,my first heli was a humming bird v3,i payed £200 about 2 years ago,i then sold it because i couldnt do anything with it,then about a month ago i bought a minipred for £200 and i have learn how to hover and to do basic fowerd flight,all without crashing,iv now bought a trex v2 se,
                      for me this was the best was to get into the hobby,the trex is buy far a better built and quality heli than the minipred,but you get what you pay for,iv still got lots to learn and i will be doing that on the minipred,as its going to be cheaper to fix,i know i will be able to hover with the trex and as i learn more with the mini i will do more with the trex,im glad this is the way i did it as iv not got a club near by so iv had to teach my self in the garden,iv got 10years exsperience with nitro engines,so when i can fly i will get a nitro, i dont think it makes a diff what you buy as you will always buy somthing else the longer you stay in the hobby,but £200will get flying and wanting more,
                      mark
                      T-REX V2 SE..........OOOHHHHYYYEEEEA
                      3D MINIPRED..........ssh dont tell anyone
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                      • #41
                        The fella who set up my machine and flys a 90 (very well I'm told) said he learned everything on a sim.
                        He just played on the sim every day for weeks until he could fly inverted etc, then took a real one out and flew inverted and 3D on his first ever real flight.

                        Said he was amazed because it really was just like the sim and he recommended getting a good quality sim.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rotorhead View Post

                          and how can you judge just by five minutes with it, and a cursory look.

                          ive had alot more than five minutes and flown alot more than one. agreed it is just like a ZOOM, infact most of my old zoom bits fit still so my solaris/mini pred had ali upgrades.
                          But there's a reason the Zoom isn't rated as highly as thing like the Trex.

                          The main issue with the mini pred is the electrical equipment, if you rgyro doesnt fail something else will FACT......its budget gear in a budget heli. if yours hasnt failled yet your doing well but soon enough it will go.
                          HoneyBee king with brushless upgrade for £30 is the best starter heli....pick that over mini pred any day.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Green-Giant View Post
                            ive had alot more than five minutes and flown alot more than one. agreed it is just like a ZOOM, infact most of my old zoom bits fit still so my solaris/mini pred had ali upgrades.
                            But there's a reason the Zoom isn't rated as highly as thing like the Trex.

                            The main issue with the mini pred is the electrical equipment, if you rgyro doesnt fail something else will FACT......its budget gear in a budget heli. if yours hasnt failled yet your doing well but soon enough it will go.
                            HoneyBee king with brushless upgrade for £30 is the best starter heli....pick that over mini pred any day.
                            I dont own a mini-pred, and lets put it this way, I can outfly anyone at our indoor club with my 2+ year old zoom with a CSM LW200, and nearly everyone else has T-rex's and Twister 3D's with 401's and 490T's, and thats a fact.

                            Zooms arnt that bad, the only thing they fall down on really is cyclic rate, which you can fix anyway.
                            Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rotorhead View Post
                              I dont own a mini-pred, and lets put it this way, I can outfly anyone at our indoor club with my 2+ year old zoom with a CSM LW200, and nearly everyone else has T-rex's and Twister 3D's with 401's and 490T's, and thats a fact.

                              Zooms arnt that bad, the only thing they fall down on really is cyclic rate, which you can fix anyway.
                              ever thought thats pilot ability not down the the heli??? i have seem a very very good pilot compare a Trex and a Zoom and guess which one was the better i'll let you work it out..it began with a T though
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Green-Giant View Post
                                ever thought thats pilot ability not down the the heli??? i have seem a very very good pilot compare a Trex and a Zoom and guess which one was the better i'll let you work it out..it began with a T though
                                That was kinda the point there.....

                                Its opinion which is subjective, the T-rex is better for certain things, but it had better be for all the extra cost, but as I said, I can outfly anyone at the indoor club that has turned up there in the last three years with helis, I'm not trying to show off its just thats how it is, and I have been doing aerobatics with my zoom 400 that no one else has done with a T-rex, so its more skill than machine.

                                Considering the cost of it, its impressive, use a decent transmitter and a good Lipo and its a good flying machine.

                                Tonight I flew Mike W's mini-pred, and was doing everything I regularly do with the zoom 400, it was a bit slower on the cyclic than my zoom but then again its set up to learn on with a low headspeed, and my zoom had some mods to it to make it more responsive.

                                Essentially the mini-pred is a good heli, its doing its job as a first heli, and it should take basic aerobatics when set up to do so, but I had it doing backwards circuits the gyro held quite well, and fast forward flight, and travelling piros, in a fairly confined space (not a particularly big sports hall)

                                With a higher headspeed and adjustment of the mixing arms, it will loop and go inverted.

                                People are slagging it off while comparing it to a helicopter that wil run you £600 for a decent set up.

                                Apples and Oranges.
                                Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

                                Current kit

                                Evo 50
                                T-rex 500FG night setup.
                                T-rex 700N pro
                                T-rex 450 pro
                                10CP
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