Another newbie thread - help needed?!

[richieclarkie]

Whats your reservations with the 3154 for a new flyer?
As i've just taken off the 56 and replaced it with a 3154... i was lead to believe the 56 wasnt up to much for a new flyer... and a digital with a 401 would be much better???

Now confused as to what will be the best route to take???

The 9650 on a mini titan seems a little over-kill for its size & weight - i'm sure this will make the heli tail heavy... maybe this is why so many t-rex's are tail heavy - light model with a big servo on the back????

I have some other issues with the tail on the mini-titan so am not flying until i have it sorted... so i have some thinking time!

The only reservations I have is the reports that 3154s can burn out prematurely. Speak to Ash. I used an HS65 on my old SE and it was OK for basic flight and circuits. Admittedly it wasn't rock solid, but acceptable. The 401 is of course a perfect choice.

Not sure why you think there is a problem with using the 9650 with the TREX 450. Every decent pilot I know is using them. My C of G is spot on, not tail heavy at all.

Ash did mention some new digital servos by hi-tec being released. Might be worth investigating.....

[Ashley Davis]

the HS56 and HS65 have gone digital. There's also the Robbe FS 61 BB carbon speed (no. 8520).

The 3154 will burn out if you run it at 6V, it needs step down to 5V.....even then I think it's a tad weedy for the job.

[avic]

Hi!

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit. I’m really interested in this sport to but I really don’t understand half the stuff you guys are talking about!! Up to this point of my life I’ve not been very mechanics minded. I have no idea what a Cyclic Servo or Additional Lipos are and wouldn’t no where to put them on a heli! So I guess my question is what is the best way to learn all this stuff? Is there a heli magazine? Maybe a mentor or something? I live in surrey is there is anybody around there?

Lastly is it as complicated as it seems or once you get a basic understanding is it fairly easy to get your head around?

Thanks guys

[Sesame]

Hi avic

we all have to start somewhere and your in a good place to ask questions.

theres loads of information available through this site and others one really good one if you want to read about bits and pieces http://www.trextuning.com/ it explains alot about electric helis.

a Cyclic servo is one used to move the swashplate of the model it can either be used for aeleron, elevator or pitch movment of the swash, or it can be used in conjunction with 2 other matched servos which all work together to give you those 3 movments, this is whats called a ccpm system, but now im edging towards getting complex.

Lipos (lithium polymer batteries) can be used to actually drive the motor of the heli itself in helis like the T-Rex 450 or 600E. Lipo's are also now being used to drive the radio equiment too.

have a read and I would suggest you just ask away any questions.

[avic]

Cheers for that mate,

Btw are helis that use feul really better than electric ones for beginners?

[Sesame]

what Ic helis give you is the ability to easily keep flying, fly refuel fly refuel fly etc.

plus if you were starting on something like a 30 or 50 size heli you will find it alot more stable than a smaller heli. basically the bigger the blades the more stable the heli tends to be.

If you were to start on an electric, then you are going to be waiting 20-50 mins for a battery to charge before the next flight, with something like a T-Rex 450 its approx 20 mins per charge, and as batteries arn't hugly expensive around £30 a time most people can afford a couple of them to keep themselves in the air. However if you were to go up to one of the 50 size electric like the T-Rex 600E I belive the charge times are approx 40-50 mins because its a much larger battery and of course its alot more expensive to have extra batteries for them, your talking about £135-180 for a 600 battery.

Also from a complete charge you will only squeeze about 10mins of hovering time where you will usually get about 15-20 mins out of a tank in a 30 ic heli. and of course you just fill it up again and away you go.

[avic]

what Ic helis give you is the ability to easily keep flying, fly refuel fly refuel fly etc.

plus if you were starting on something like a 30 or 50 size heli you will find it alot more stable than a smaller heli. basically the bigger the blades the more stable the heli tends to be.

If you were to start on an electric, then you are going to be waiting 20-50 mins for a battery to charge before the next flight, with something like a T-Rex 450 its approx 20 mins per charge, and as batteries arn't hugly expensive around £30 a time most people can afford a couple of them to keep themselves in the air. However if you were to go up to one of the 50 size electric like the T-Rex 600E I belive the charge times are approx 40-50 mins because its a much larger battery and of course its alot more expensive to have extra batteries for them, your talking about £135-180 for a 600 battery.

Also from a complete charge you will only squeeze about 10mins of hovering time where you will usually get about 15-20 mins out of a tank in a 30 ic heli. and of course you just fill it up again and away you go.

Very informative, thank you. Is their any licence needed? Just talked to a friend who thought so.

[Heli_Dude]

Hey - you're totally correct - so I got two (450SE's that is a V1 and a V2) both awsome!! (although I admit the V2 is more rock solid) I have a mate with a Mini Tittan - thinks it's pants and he flies my TREX 450 most of the time instead.. however I've got a feeling it's not the heli but the gear he's using...

[richieclarkie]

Very informative, thank you. Is their any licence needed? Just talked to a friend who thought so.

No there is no licence required, although helis, particularly nitro do require respect and you won't get insurance unless you fly at a designated BMFA affiliated club.

Probably most of us fly the smaller 450 leccys down the park, even then you have to be careful of dogs and passers by.

[robgt]

you won't get insurance unless you fly at a designated BMFA affiliated club

That should read "designated flying area" - clubs don't have to be affiliated to the BMFA for their insurance to still cover flying at them.
I just thought that was worth mentioning - my club is not BMFA affiliated...


Cheers,
Rob

[fatmantom]

avic i am local to u, but if u have an msn it would be easyier to talk

i dont know every thing in great detail, but i know enough to get u going!

[richieclarkie]

That should read "designated flying area" - clubs don't have to be affiliated to the BMFA for their insurance to still cover flying at them.
I just thought that was worth mentioning - my club is not BMFA affiliated...

Consider me corrected

[robgt]

Hey man - not you, just the text

LOL
Cheers,
Rob