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    I needed a BMFA 'A' certificate to fly at my local club (RDMAC) - a club which is very friendly whether you're fixed wing or rotary, but sadly lacks for any heli instructors.

    So I checked in with "Flyin' Fish". Had my first session there on Saturday and passed my A. It was no simple fact-checking exercise - it was incredibly helpful, and I came away knowing twice as much on even stuff like pre-flight checks. Initially, that was all I was after, but I came away inspired.

    Dave Fisher is a very friendly and confidence-inspiring guy, but frankly I don't think Flyin Fish need any kind of plug from me at all. I just thought I'd give anyone who might be in my situation the message that training at a good model flight school is way more useful than you might think.

    The three things that stood out to me the most, and would have sold it to me a lot earlier, were:

    i) The trainer is serious - it doesn't matter if you have very basic beginner skills or are working on backwards flipping circuits, he'll give you the same deep attention, extremely insightful advice, and home in like a sniper on what part of your flying is limiting you.

    ii) There's nothing like a very experienced guy on the buddy box! I didn't have to worry about saving the model, and if there was a really tricky manoeuvre, he could keep putting the model into that situation so 100% of my time was spent perfecting just that one bit rather than 95% of my time getting the model back round to that position and then bailing out. All my time was spent on precisely the bit that needed the work.

    iii) It saves a lot more money than it costs, and even more if you consider your own time to be valuable. Those 2 hours when I'm getting to grips with something new are probably the danger period when the model is going to get dumb-thumbed. It isn't going to happen at a training school, models just don't go in except through mechanical failure. (I'll be testing that one..)

    So I'm now really inspired to go out, work on what I was taught in the session, and then go back for another session and crack on like that all year. Haven't felt this renewed about the hobby .. ever.

    Hope someone else tries it who might not have done before

    Anyway, if nothing else, ta Flyin' Fish
    Last edited by Detritus; 24-03-2011, 03:55 PM. Reason: spelt everything wrong :)

  • #2
    Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. In the beginning I did lessons at the Paul Heckles school and also with Nigel Fraser Kerr and that gave me the much needed confidence to get over a particular hurdle at different times (when I first started and was going from only sim flying to the real thing and then again when I first got my Raptor 30).
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Detritus View Post
      Dave Fish is a very friendly and confidence-inspiring guy, but frankly I don't think Flying Fish need any kind of plug from me at all. I just thought I'd give anyone who might be in my situation the message that training at a good model flight school is way more useful than you might think.
      I was there on Sat as well and I could not agree more!

      Also after having been for one session, my advice to someone joining this hobby is to get some good hours on Phoenix and once you have some stick confidence have a training session on a real heli before buying one. This way you can get some expert advice on what heli would suit your needs before spilling out the cash.
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      • #4
        You cannot beat good training from a competent TRAINER, many can fly but few have the ability to pass this information on, for me (in Essex) Darren Hardy at Rapid Rotors is a fantastic teacher (and pretty awesome flyer as well). Anybody thinking of having lessons, dont think DO IT it will be the best thing you have done in ages
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Detritus View Post
          Dave Fish is a very friendly and confidence-inspiring guy, but frankly I don't think Flying Fish need any kind of plug from me at all. I just thought I'd give anyone who might be in my situation the message that training at a good model flight school is way more useful than you might think.
          Had similar experiences so far of Dave. I had 2 hours of training in Jan ( first time I'd ever flown a heli ) got hooked from the word go. I bought my TT360 from him, had the setup checked by him after I'd built it, and I've got 3 hours booked in a few weeks to get some more training.

          I dumped my training gear one month after flying solo for the first time, that is all down to the training and advice I got from Dave.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Detritus View Post
            I needed a BMFA 'A' certificate to fly at my local club (RDMAC) - a club which is very friendly whether you're fixed wing or rotary, but sadly lacks for any heli instructors.

            So I checked in with "Flying Fish". Had my first session there on Saturday and passed my A. It was no simple fact-checking exercise - it was incredbily helpful, and I came away knowing twice as much on even stuff like pre-flight checks. Initially, that was all I was after, but I came away inspired.

            Dave Fish is a very friendly and confidence-inspiring guy, but frankly I don't think Flying Fish need any kind of plug from me at all. I just thought I'd give anyone who might be in my situation the message that training at a good model flight school is way more useful than you might think.

            The three things that stood out to me the most, and would have sold it to me a lot earlier, were:

            i) The trainer is serious - it doesn't matter if you have very basic beginner skills or are working on backwards flipping circuits, he'll give you the same deep attention, extremely insightful advice, and home in like a sniper on what part of your flying is limiting you.

            ii) There's nothing like a very experienced guy on the buddy box! I didn't have to worry about saving the model, and if there was a really tricky manouvre, he could keep putting the model into that situation so 100% of my time was spent perfecting just that one bit rather than 95% of my time getting the model back round to that position and then bailing out. All my time was spent on precisely the bit that needed the work.

            iii) It saves a lot more money than it costs, and even more if you consider your own time to be valuable. Those 2 hours when I'm getting to grips with something new are probably the danger period when the model is going to get dumb-thumbed. It isn't going to happen at a training school, models just don't go in except through mechanical failure. (I'll be testing that one..)

            So I'm now really inspired to go out, work on what I was taught in the session, and then go back for another session and crack on like that all year. Haven't felt this renewed about the hobby .. ever.

            Hope someone else tries it who might not have done before

            Anyway, if nothing else, ta Flying Fish
            +1. Would recommend Dave to anyone.
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            • #7
              Ok I'm convinced ... Flyin Fish here I come. Don't want to crash my brand new Trex600 ... Thanks.


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              • #8
                You'll get loads out of the time there.
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                • #9
                  Been there 3 times, each time has moved my flying on immensely. Just exploring inverted circuits and backwards flight and I know I'm not using the right technique for either so will be going for a 4th visit as soon as I can trust the weather a bit more!

                  Enjoy your time there, your head will fizz as you drive home going over what you've learnt

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                  • #10
                    I like too have a couple of hours lesson every couple of months gives my flying and enjoyment of it a right boost, I have promised too take a young fella with for a lesson, but the weather been so bad, as soon as it warms a bit I will book one in......
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                    • #11
                      There's a lot to be said for having a few hours on a training lead with a professional teacher.

                      My first real flights were with Mark Bateman who also teaches at flyin fish. Fortunately he has his own school in south Manchester 4 days a week.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Detritus View Post
                        Been there 3 times, each time has moved my flying on immensely. Just exploring inverted circuits and backwards flight and I know I'm not using the right technique for either so will be going for a 4th visit as soon as I can trust the weather a bit more!

                        Enjoy your time there, your head will fizz as you drive home going over what you've learnt
                        I've been 3 times too, although the third time was to take my 'A' test. Each time I've learnt a huge amount and enjoyed the time there.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mslater View Post
                          There's a lot to be said for having a few hours on a training lead with a professional teacher.

                          My first real flights were with Mark Bateman who also teaches at flyin fish. Fortunately he has his own school in south Manchester 4 days a week.

                          Shameless plug. Model Flight Training
                          Where abouts in Manchester is it?
                          My flying has got somewhat static at a fairly basic level and needs a boot up the ar*e. This looks like a perfect boot!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by paulsouthport View Post
                            Where abouts in Manchester is it?
                            My flying has got somewhat static at a fairly basic level and needs a boot up the ar*e. This looks like a perfect boot!
                            3 miles from altrincham towards partington

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                            • #15
                              Nice one, that's in range!
                              Definitely gonna take a few hours there when the weather heats up.
                              cheers!
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